Amgen (AMGN) Q3 2026 earnings call transcript

Transcript, summary, guidance, and what analysts pressed on from the Amgen call on November 3, 2026.

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November 3, 2026
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1 h 2 min
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Confident0.82
Analysts
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Indeltra Delphi 305 survival
21.1 months vs 12.7 monthsmedian overall survival
Indeltra Phase 1b survival
37.9 months30.8 months’ median follow-up
U.S. first-line maintenance patients
23,000potential Indeltra population
U.S. small-cell lung cancer population
35,000addressable population cited
Repatha additional starters
over 3 millionglobally this year
Patients above LDL-C goals
100 millionworldwide

Summary

Management framed the quarter as evidence of broad-based execution and a pipeline increasingly capable of sustaining growth into the next decade.

  • 27%27% growth from six key drivers, now over 70% of product sales, underscored portfolio momentum beyond headline growth.
  • Indeltra’s first-line maintenance data shifted the call’s emphasis toward a potential small-cell lung cancer cornerstone, with management preparing regulatory filings.
  • Management highlighted three positive Phase III readouts, while stressing that Sjögren’s symptomatic-study results remain pending.

What analysts pressed on

  • 01Sjogren’s symptomatic study: management said systemic results do not reliably predict the separate Q4 readout and declined to detail regulatory strategy.
  • 02Maritide tolerability: management declined to discuss blinded Phase III data, saying efficacy and tolerability would be shared at readout.
  • 03Maritide commercialization and access: management expects differentiation to support coverage, but said ex-U.S. reimbursement may be tougher and consumer-driven.
  • 04Indeltra opportunity: management refused product-specific sales estimates, but cited a 35,000-patient U.S. small-cell lung cancer population.
  • 05M&A: management emphasized disciplined external deals aligned with four therapeutic areas and shareholder returns, without signaling deal timing.
  • 06Biosimilar launches: management said Opdivo and Keytruda launches should be first-wave, but declined to discuss timing or subcutaneous competition.

Notable disclosures

  • 21.1 months median overall survival with Indeltra plus Imfinzi versus 12.7 months with Imfinzi alone in Delphi 305.
  • 37.9 months median overall survival at 30.8 months’ follow-up in the Phase 1b first-line maintenance study.
  • Delphi 305 allowed one-to-two-hour monitoring, while the current second-line label was shortened to less than six hours.
  • 3MManagement said Repatha could reach over 3 million additional global starters this year, with 100 million patients still above LDL-C goals.

Risks raised

  • Sjogren’s symptomatic Phase III results are still pending, and management cautioned against extrapolating from the systemic study.
  • Indeltra uptake depends partly on regulatory action, guideline adoption, and clinics’ ability to manage monitoring and cytokine-release risks.
  • Maritide access outside the U.S. may be difficult; management expects those markets to remain consumer-driven.
  • Small-cell lung cancer patients progress rapidly, limiting the second-line population and increasing the importance of earlier-line adoption.

Tone: Confident 0.82

Management conveyed strong commercial confidence and enthusiasm for pipeline catalysts, while acknowledging pending data, access uncertainty, and execution hurdles.

Who spoke

Company

  • Unidentified Management
  • Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President
  • Murdo GordonExecutive Vice President, Global Commercial Operations
  • James BradnerExecutive Vice President, Research and Development
  • Thomas DietrichChief Financial Officer

Analysts

  • Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Full transcript

Analyst questions are marked with a bar. Timestamps are into the recording.

Prepared remarks

00:00

Unidentified Management

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our third quarter of 2026 earnings call. Bob Bradway will lead the call today and be followed by a broader review of our performance by Murdo Gordon, Jay Bradner, and Thomas Dietrich. Through the course of our discussion today, we will use non-GAAP financial measures to describe our performance and have provided appropriate reconciliations within the materials that accompany this call.

We will also make some forward-looking statements, which are qualified by our safe harbor statement. And please note that actual results can vary materially. Over to you, Bob.

00:39

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining our call. Our results through the first three quarters of the year reflect the strength of our business across a broad range of products and pipeline molecules. This is exactly the kind of performance our strategy was designed to achieve. Strong commercial and operations execution and continued innovation from our research and development organization reinforce our confidence and Amgen's ability to deliver durable long-term growth.

For the latest quarter, total revenues grew a strong 8% year-over-year to $10.4 billion. Our six key growth drivers grew 27% year-over-year and represented over 70% of our third-quarter product sales. Across the portfolio, 17 products delivered double-digit sales growth, and 17 products are now annualizing at more than $1 billion based on third-quarter sales. We see significant opportunity to build on this momentum.

Many of our medicines address large, underpenetrated disease areas where the majority of patients remain untreated. Repatha, Avenity, and Tess Spire are clear examples of that.

Our strong financial performance gives us the flexibility to invest in innovation and the capabilities needed to support future growth while delivering attractive returns to shareholders. In the third quarter, we generated $3.7 billion in free cash flow, increased our investments in research and development by 11% year-over-year, and invested another $600 million in the business through capital expenditures.

This was another productive quarter for our R&D organization. We reported positive Phase III results from three important programs. M-Deltra in small cell lung cancer, where we are working to establish it as the cornerstone therapy, Tez Spire in eosinophilic esophagitis, an area with significant unmet need, and Dezodalabep in Sjogren's disease, where no approved disease-modifying therapies currently exist.

I would note that each of these represents an established or potential first-in-class medicine with the opportunity to make a meaningful difference for patients while providing additional sources of long-term growth for Amgen.

Likewise, our progress reflects the strength of our science and our commitment to pursuing novel approaches for serious diseases. That same focus guides our investment in programs such as Meritide, which is advancing through Phase III development. Jay will discuss these programs and our other clinical advances in more detail shortly. We're also leveraging technology, data-driven insights, and artificial intelligence across Amgen to improve the speed and efficiency of how we discover, develop, manufacture, and deliver medicine to patients.

We're encouraged by our performance this quarter, and our broad portfolio, continued investment, and advancing pipeline give us confidence in Amgen's ability to deliver durable growth well into the next decade. I want to thank our colleagues around the world for their dedication to our mission to serve patients and for the quality of their work every day.

With that, we'll turn it over to Murdo.

04:16

Murdo GordonExecutive Vice President, Global Commercial Operations

Thanks, Bob. Looking back at the third quarter, what stands out for me is the remarkable progress we've made across our late-stage pipeline and broad in-line portfolio. We've seen important positive clinical readouts, regulatory milestones, and record sales performance for several of our key medicines. The consistency of these achievements reflects the breadth and strength of Amgen today and reinforces our confidence in the growth opportunities ahead.

Our commercial performance reflects its progress. Product sales grew 8% year over year, and we have 17 products annualizing at more than $1 billion in sales. All six of our key growth drivers delivered double-digit growth in the quarter, together growing 27% year over year and now representing more than 70% of product sales. Starting with General Medicine, Repatha delivered $1.1 billion in third-quarter sales, growing 37% year-over-year.

Repatha's momentum continues to accelerate, with U. S. average weekly new-to-brand prescriptions increasing over 60% compared with the prior year. This growth is supported by increased urgency to treat in both secondary prevention and high-risk primary prevention patients. With the landmark Vesalia-CV results, Repatha is now the only PCSK9 inhibitor with Phase III cardiovascular outcomes evidence in both primary and secondary prevention.

We're seeing deepening conviction and adoption among cardiologists and accelerating use in primary care. The updated ACC and AHA guidelines reinforce earlier, more intensive LDL cholesterol lowering and support the use of PCSK9 inhibitors without requiring prior treatment with azetamide. The new guidelines, supported by Repatha's differentiated outcomes data, strengthen clinical conviction that Repatha should be the first choice when additional LDL cholesterol lowering is needed beyond statins.

This year alone, we expect more than 3 million additional patients globally to start treatment with Repatha. With an estimated 100 million patients worldwide still above their LDL-C goals, we are only beginning to address a significant unmet need, giving us confidence in Repatha's growth potential into the 2030s. Avenity sales increased 39% in the third quarter to $751 million, building on 38% year-over-year growth in the previous quarter.

In the United States, robust patient demand continues to drive momentum, supported by an expanding prescriber base and deeper adoption among treating physicians. We're increasing investment to expand our reach among physicians and to help more patients access treatment with Avenity. The opportunity remains significant, particularly when we consider the devastating consequences of osteoporotic fractures. One in two patients who experience a hip fracture do not regain their pre-fracture mobility.

This reinforces the importance of earlier intervention and our conviction in Avenity's potential to help more women at very high fracture risk, including those who have not yet experienced a fracture. In Japan, Avenity maintains leadership in the bone builder category with nearly 60% volume share. Updated treatment guidelines and increasing use among treatment-naive patients are supporting continued growth and reinforcing Avenity's important role in osteoporosis care.

Moving to inflammation, test buyer sales grew 43% year-over-year, reaching $538 million, driven by strong demand and severe uncontrolled asthma. Test buyers' growth continues to outperform the severe uncontrolled asthma market, with U. S. new-to-brand prescriptions growing 15% year-over-year versus 3% market growth. Test buyers achieved 34% new-to-brand prescription share among allergists in the U. S. and continues to gain share among pulmonologists, with substantial room for further adoption. The consistent flow of strong clinical data continues to reinforce test buyers' differentiated efficacy across inflammatory diseases. Phase III results in chronic rhinosinusitis with nasal polyps demonstrated improvements in disease control and a reduction in the need for surgery. More recently, positive Phase III results in neosinophilic esophagitis, or EOE, demonstrated meaningful improvements in key measures of disease activity and symptoms highlighting another potential new opportunity for Tespire to help more patients.

Turning to rare disease, this portfolio grew 21% year-over-year to $1.6 billion, reflecting continued momentum from additional indications and disciplined execution of international expansion. We see opportunity to extend the reach of these treatments, improve outcomes for patients, and sustain meaningful growth well into the next decade. Uplizna sales increased 191% year-over-year to $451 million in the third quarter, driven by strong patient demand across all approved indications. Uplizna offers a highly differentiated clinical profile, combining outstanding efficacy that resonates with physicians and convenient twice-yearly dosing that benefits patients.

This profile is supported by broad pair coverage and Amgen's comprehensive patient support services, helping physicians initiate treatment and support continuity of care. In the U. S. , Suplizna is demonstrating significant growth in generalized myosthenia gravis, or GMG, with new and continuing patients increasing 45% quarter over quarter. Adoption is expanding among both biologic-naive patients and those transitioning from other therapies, reinforcing our confidence in Uplizna's potential to establish market leadership in this category.

In IgG4-related disease, long-term follow-up data from the Phase III Mitigate study continued to reinforce Uplizna's durable efficacy profile. All patients who continued treatment with Uplizna remained flare-free through the first year of the open label extension, with more than 70% achieving complete remission without glucocorticoids. These durable results, together with growing disease awareness and improved diagnosis, support our confidence in Uplizna's potential to help many more patients.

Uplizna continues to expand its reach internationally and is now launched in 25 markets outside the U. S. We see substantial opportunity for continued growth as we bring Epilisna to more patients around the world and advance its development across additional autoimmune diseases. Tepeza generated $526 million in third quarter sales, a 6% decline year over year, impacted by an inventory build in the third quarter of last year.

International adoption continues to build, with particularly encouraging uptake in Japan since entering the market last year. Tepeza has now launched in more than 20 countries worldwide, with three additional markets planned for the remainder of 2026. Our biosimilar portfolio delivered 26% year-over-year growth, generating $977 million in sales in the third quarter. PABLU, our biosimilar to ILEA, increased sales of 41% year-over-year to $300 million in a quarter. Retina specialists recognize the benefits of PABLU's convenient pre-filled syringe presentation, supported by Amgen's established capabilities in biosimilar manufacturing and supply.

Our next wave of biosimilar candidates for ILEA, HD, Obdivo, Keytruda, and Ocrevus are in late-stage clinical development and represent large market opportunities. Turning to innovative oncology, the portfolio grew 21% year-over-year, generating $2.1 billion in sales in the third quarter. BluntCyto sales increased 27% year-over-year to $496 million in the third quarter. This growth continues to reflect broad prescribing across academic and community settings and increasing international adoption.

BluntCyto's established role in treating B-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia, demonstrates the strength of our bispecific T-cell engager platform and its ability to deliver meaningful outcomes across different cancers. Indeltra sales more than doubled year over year to $406 million. Behind this commercial momentum is a medicine with the potential to make a profound difference for patients facing small cell lung cancer. These patients and their families have faced limited treatment options and poor survival outcomes for decades. Imdeltra is changing that. Our landmark Delphi 304 trial demonstrated a 40% reduction in the risk of death compared with chemotherapy in second-line treatment.

Imdeltra also offers convenient every two-week dosing following initial step-up period. We're making progress in reducing the burden of treatment. The FDA recently shortened the recommended monitoring period for the first two doses from 22 to 24 hours to just 6 to 8 hours.

Looking ahead, we are advancing alternative dosing schedules, subcutaneous administration, and has the potential to further improve convenience for patients and expand access in community settings. The potential to help patients earlier in their treatment journey is even more exciting, and as Jay will discuss in more detail, we recently presented Phase 3 results from the Delphi 305 study evaluating Indeltra in combination with Infinzi in first-line maintenance treatment. I was at the European Society for Medical Oncology, Congress of Madrid, when these findings were presented, and I was moved by the standing ovation from the audience. The excitement we heard from oncologists about the potential to significantly extend patients' lives was remarkable.

The magnitude of these results is difficult to overstate. More than eight additional months of median overall survival represents an extraordinary advance for patients facing this devastating disease. We're moving with urgency to advance regulatory discussions with health authorities and support timely consideration by clinical guideline organizations, including the NCCN, so these findings can translate into clinical practice as rapidly as possible. We believe in DELTRA as the potential to transform the treatment of small cell lung cancer and with additional regulatory approvals become a cornerstone therapy across multiple stages of small cell lung cancer Our portfolio has significant potential for deeper market penetration additional indications and global expansion.

We're confident in our ability to deliver sustained growth well into the next decade while reaching more patients around the world. And now I'll turn it over to Jay.

15:45

James BradnerExecutive Vice President, Research and Development

Thank you, Myrta, and good afternoon. This quarter, we reported three positive Phase III readouts across three serious diseases, in Deltra and small cell lung cancer, TESPIRE and eosinophilic esophagitis, and DASO-DALIBEP and Sjöbrin's disease. These results reflect our R&D strategy that focuses on first-in-class and best-in-class medicines for serious diseases with high unmet need. Each advance represents meaningful progress for patients and physicians and meaningful potential for long-term growth.

As Murdo introduced, Indeltra is our DLL3 targeted bispecific T-cell engager currently approved in second line or later small cell lung cancer, and the second approved medicine arising from our BITE platform. At the European Society for Medical Oncology Conference, we presented practice-changing results for Indeltra from the Delphi 305 study that evaluates Indeltra plus Infimzi versus Infimzi alone as first-line maintenance treatment.

The combination of Indeltra to Infinzi brought a median overall survival of 21.1 months versus 12.7 months with Infinzi alone. The results are notable in a challenging clinical setting where current medicines deliver only a modest improvement in overall survival. Median follow-up at the data cutoff was 15.9 months, and we will report final survival benefit as these data mature. Longer follow-up of 30 months from the Phase 1b first-line maintenance study of M-Deltra with anti-PD-L1 therapy was also presented at ESMO, remarkably featuring a median overall survival of 37 months.

These results are unprecedented in small cell lung cancer. The safety profile of M-Deltra and Delphi 305 was consistent with the clinical experience to date. Cytokine release syndrome and ICANs were primarily low-grade and occurred mostly after the first two doses.

Delphi 305 permitted one- to two-hour monitoring time, which could support outpatient administration and broader uptake. Given the transformative benefit observed, we are now working to rapidly file with regulatory authorities around the world. If approved in first-line maintenance, Indeltra could address the needs of 23,000 patients in the U. S. alone, importantly used earlier in the treatment journey and for a longer duration of therapy.

We are pursuing a broad clinical program to establish Indeltra as the cornerstone therapy for patients with small cell lung cancer. This program includes evaluating Indeltra in earlier stage disease, novel combinations, including antibody drug conjugates, and in other DLL-3 expressing cancers.

Turning to TESPIRE, which targets TSLP, an upstream driver of inflammation in airways and other tissues, we recently presented positive results from the CROSSing study in eosinophilic esophagitis, or EOE. EOE is another epithelial-driven eosinophilic inflammatory disease alongside severe asthma and chronic rhinocytocytis with nasal polyps. EOE affects more than 470,000 people in the U. S. Nearly half of patients with this devastating disease remain inadequately controlled with existing treatments.

The Phase III crossing study evaluated TESPIRE in adolescents and adults with symptomatic uncontrolled EOE. At Week 24, the study met both co-primary endpoints, demonstrating improved histologic remission and improved swallowing symptoms compared with placebo. These benefits were sustained through week 52. This is the first time sustained efficacy through 52 weeks has been shown for a biologic in a placebo-controlled EOE trial.

Multiple secondary endpoints were also met as test-fire improved measures of underlying inflammation, swallowing symptoms, and endoscopic disease activity. Together with every four-week dosing, these results support TESPIR's potential as an important treatment option for patients with EOE and add to the evidence for targeting TSLP across serious diseases driven by eosinophilic inflammation.

For patients with Sjogren's disease, we are targeting CD40 ligand signaling with daisodolivep in two Phase III trials, in systemic and in symptomatic disease. Sjogren's can affect multiple organ systems and cause persistent dryness, fatigue, and pain. There are no approved disease-modifying therapies for Sjogren's disease. In systemic Sjogren's disease, we are excited by the positive, clinically meaningful results of DASO-DALIBEP in the placebo-controlled Phase III OASIS-301 study. The study met its primary endpoint with statistically significant improvement from baseline S-Di of 5.6 points with monthly dosing and 5.2 points with quarterly dosing, or 1.8 and 1.4 point placebo-adjusted improvement, respectively. The treatment effect was observed as early as week four and sustained through the end of study at week 48.

Importantly, Dezo-Dalibet also met key secondary endpoints for patient-reported dryness, with statistically significant improvements in in DASPRI and ESPRI scores with monthly dosing.

DASO-DALIBEP was generally well tolerated, whether administered monthly or quarterly. We'll present the detailed data at ACR on November 11th and await the completion of our second Phase III study in symptomatic Sjogren's disease expected later this year.

Beyond these three important Phase III advances, we recently reported at EADV, the positive phase 2 data for dexdilimab in primary discoid lupus, or DLE.

Dexdilimab targets ILT7 to reduce plasma cytoid dendritic cells and address type 1 interferon-mediated inflammation. DLE can cause permanent scarring, skin pigment changes, and hair loss. In the study, both doses of dexdilimab met the primary endpoint, with improvement in active skin disease observed as early as week 4 and sustained through week 24.

At week 24, dactylimab improved baseline Classy A by 10.2 points at the lower dose and 9.9 points at the higher dose. The corresponding placebo-adjusted Classy A improvements of 6.0 and 5.7 points respectively were both statistically significant. Dexilumab was well-tolerated, with no serious adverse events or deaths reported. Based on these results, we are advancing dexilumab into Phase III development.

As you can see, we've been working hard to execute the late-stage portfolio. Evan enjoyed terrific results this quarter. Elsewhere in the portfolio, we are focused on developing important new medicines in our late-stage pipeline. For patients with prostate cancer, we are rapidly advancing xyloridamig in both early stage and advanced disease, extending the reach of our T-cell engager platform.

For individuals with obesity and related conditions, we are advancing our comprehensive Phase III maritime development program. This quarter, we completed enrollment of both Phase III sleep apnea studies, our cardiovascular outcomes study and initiated the first of three phase 3 studies in type 2 diabetes.

Maritide is emerging as the first monthly therapy for obesity, with the potential for as few as four or six doses per year.

The Maritide program is designed to establish how individuals can start and stay on Maritide and how others can switch from other GLP-1-based medicines and stay on Maritide. Our goal is to make long-term treatment easier for patients, to sustain weight loss, and enjoy durable health benefits. I'd like to thank my colleagues across Amgen for their continued focus on patients and their commitment to advancing innovative medicines for serious diseases.

I'll now turn it over to Thomas for the financial update.

24:20

Thomas DietrichChief Financial Officer

Thank you, Jay. As many of you know, this is my second chapter at Amgen. I spent nearly a decade here earlier in my career working with Bob and the team. Since then, I've served as CFO of three public companies with responsibilities spanning finance, strategy, transformation, and operations. I also gained experience in a more consumer-focused healthcare environment and in a rare disease setting. So, I come back to Amgen knowing the company well, but also looking at it with fresh eyes, informed by my experiences over the past 12 years. Today, I'm pleased to join you for my first quarterly earnings call as Amgen CFO.

I look forward to maintaining Amgen's active engagement with the investment community and the financial discipline that investors expect. My top priorities are straightforward. One, working with my colleagues as a team to drive long-term growth through consistent execution of our strategy and operational efficiency. Two, maintaining Amgen's disciplined approach to capital allocation. You should expect continuity here as we balance investment in the best innovation and future growth with returning capital to shareholders.

Let's now turn to our third quarter financial results. Our strong third quarter performance reinforces confidence in our six key growth drivers. Together, they reflect the breadth and depth of our business and continue to provide a strong foundation for durable growth well into the next decade. We continue to invest in advancing our pipeline while delivering strong operating results.

In the third quarter, our non-GAAP operating margin was 47%. Non-GAAP R&D spending increased 11% year over year, driven by higher spend in research and early pipeline, including business development activity. We continue to invest in the innovation that will drive future growth, including Maritide, Dazodalibab, and Xaluridomik, as well as our marketed medicines, including Imdeltra, Repasa, and Aplizna. SG&A expenses decreased 1% year-on-year, mainly driven by the timing of investments, and to a lesser extent, our ongoing productivity efforts.

We generated $3.7 billion in free cash flow, reflecting continued momentum across the business and enabling us to continue investing for future growth. Capital expenditures were $600 million in the quarter, including investments across our U. S. manufacturing sites in North Carolina, Ohio, and Puerto Rico. We continue to expect capital expenditures of approximately $2.6 billion in 2026 to scale manufacturing capacity for commercial growth and to prepare for potential merit-hide launch. In addition, we returned capital to shareholders through attractive dividend payments of $2.52 per share, representing a 6% increase compared to the third quarter of 2025.

Turning now to the outlook for the business for the remainder of 2026. We are pleased with the strength of our execution and are raising our 2026 guidance ranges for both revenue and non-GAAP EPS. We now expect 2026 total revenues in the range of $38.9 billion to $39.7 billion and non-GAAP earnings per share between $22.90 and $23.70. And let me highlight several additional guidance items. We now anticipate non-GAAP other income and expense to be in the range of $2 to $2.1 billion of expense in 2026. We continue to expect the full-year non-GAAP operating margin as a percentage of product sales to be roughly 45 to 46%. As we look to the fourth quarter, we expect a meaningful sequential increase in operating expenses consistent with our established pattern of higher spending in the final quarter of the year.

Specifically, we expect a sequentially higher cost of sales margin due to changes in our sales mix and higher profit share expenses and higher SG&A expense due to the aforementioned timing of investments in the third quarter and continued investment in our marketed products. We expect other revenue to be approximately $1.9 billion for the full year. We expect a non-GAAP tax rate in the range of 15 to 16.5%. We expect share repurchases not to exceed $3 billion.

Looking ahead to 2027, we do not anticipate a step down in operating margin compared with our 2026 guidance. We will continue to allocate resources efficiently, balancing investment in growth with disciplined expense management. As we close out the year, we remain focused on executing our strategy, advancing our growth drivers, investing in the best innovation, and maintaining our rigorous financial discipline that supports our ability to deliver durable growth well into the next decade. I am grateful to work with all our colleagues worldwide in our mission to serve patients.

This concludes our financial update. I will now hand it over to Bob for Q&A.

Questions and answers

30:33

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Okay, let's open up the line for questions, and why don't you remind our callers of the procedure.

30:40

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad If for any reason you would like to remove that question please press star followed by one Again to ask a question press star one Our first question comes from Salvine Richter from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

31:00

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Thanks. Good afternoon. On the back of the positive phase three results in systemic Sjogren's disease, could you help us to think about the confidence or kind of handicap, how we should think about the readout here in the symptomatic patients, and then speak to the regulatory path for this program overall. Thank you.

31:24

Thanks, Alvin.

31:25

James BradnerExecutive Vice President, Research and Development

This is Jay. We're delighted by the results of the systemic study 301, and the efficacy that we observe for both the primary endpoint on S-dive, placebo-adjusted, as well as the impact on secondary dryness are quite encouraging. It is hard to read through, though, from 301 into 303, the systemic to the symptomatic. These are different patient populations. They're being studied separately, and this is important to tease out the possibility of impact on these 434 patients in the 303 study.

So, we'll have more to say shortly after we see data in Q4 of this year. Regarding the regulatory path going forward. You know, this is a very competitive space of late, which is good for patients because for years there was very little progress. DAZO really represents the first therapeutic to show efficacy in the systemic setting also on symptoms and durable out to end of study. So we have nothing to say here today, but we look forward to a consideration of these data.

32:31

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Okay, let's go to the next question.

32:31

Thank you, Salveen. Our next question comes from Terrence Flynn from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

32:42

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Great. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on all the progress. I know, Thomas, you talked about some of the CapEx investments that you guys are making for ahead of the Maritime launch. Is there any consideration to maybe ramping down the biosimilars business to make even more capacity for that launch? Would that also be on the table? And then the kind of related question is, can you tell us, Jay, if you guys have access to the blinded tolerability data from the ongoing Maritide Phase III trials? Thank you.

33:16

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

I can answer that for you, Terrence, as Bob. Obviously, we consider all options when it comes and managing capacity, but we feel very confident about our ability to continue to be a reliable supplier of high-quality biosimilars. So that's not a strain for us, and our capacity expansion is really designed for larger quantities of protein than what you're referring to at the biosimilars program.

On the other question, Jay, do you want to take a shot?

33:47

James BradnerExecutive Vice President, Research and Development

Sure. Thanks, Terrence, for the question. And we are, in 2026, just noses down with discipline data generation on Maritide. And the Maritide studies are being carried out with, you know, total adherence to good clinical practices. We'll have more to share around the efficacy and tolerability of Maritide at the time that these studies read out.

34:13

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Next question, please, Julianne.

34:15

Our next question comes from Akash Chawari from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

34:18

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Hey, thanks so much. You know, hearing your team talk about the Phase 3 Sjogren's data versus Phase 2 in systemic, I think one of the things I've noticed is your team was surprised with the onset of effect, and it might have been better than what you saw in Phase 2. Can you talk about what we are seeing on onset of effect with the systemic trial and how that reads across to the symptomatic study that's coming up? And then just any comment on the Maritime Penn study. I know you just started a study looking at Maritide with an at-home auto-injector. What gave you the confidence to start that study now, and do we have any visibility on what auto-injector dose you would be having in that trial?

Thank you.

35:06

Unidentified Management

Thanks.

35:06

James BradnerExecutive Vice President, Research and Development

I'll take the questions. This is Jay. As I shared a moment ago, we were delighted, but maybe not surprised, by the impact of dasodolivap and Sjogren's disease. We were building on a very strong Phase II data set, after all. The significant 1.8 placebo-adjusted improvement with monthly dosing on the S-Di and 1.4 on the Q12 week are in line with our expectations and strong results, and the effect on dryness as well, we were hoping and expecting to see as well. The read-through, I think I've already covered a moment ago, but you asked about onset. And, you know, here is a potential advantage of something that targets active inflammatory signaling like CD40 and CD40 ligand. We got a lot of experience at this company with B cell depletion.

And with B cell depletion, there can be a delay in onset in some circumstances, though in many diseases we haven't experienced that with a plisna. So to see effect at week four is highly consistent with our mechanistic thesis that as an inhibitor of CD40 ligand, CD40 signaling, you have this chance for an immediate inhibition on B-cell-driven inflammation. But moreover, as CD40 is also highly expressed on salivary gland ductile epithelial cells and can therefore drive local inflammation through interaction with activated T-cells or otherwise, it could be sensible that dezoidalibab would work as early as four weeks, where we saw statistically significant improvement already that proved durable through the end of study. So thanks for calling out that feature.

It is a nice feature of a molecule directed at an active signaling pathway that it might, in some circumstances, work faster. Akech asked a second question about the auto injector. Obviously, we've got a ton of experience with auto injectors, Akech, so I don't think is anything particularly interesting about the study that you're referencing. But, Jay, feel free to add anything more if you'd like. No, we've been pretty consistent in sharing that Meritide is expected ultimately to be delivered in a patient-friendly, single-chamber, handheld auto-injector. We have significant experience here, as Bob shared. We've taken a fairly standard approach to its development and going well so far.

37:26

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Okay, let's go to the next question and maybe just remind our caller so that we can try to get to everybody tonight. If you could hold yourself to one question, that would be great. Casey and his team will be around, and all of us are available if you have other questions you need to get in front of us later in the day. But let's go ahead to the next caller.

37:42

Our next question comes from Michael Yee from UBS. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

37:48

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Great, thanks. One question for Bob. Bob, Amgen has been quieter, I guess, on the M&A front in a period of record M&A dealmaking. Could you just comment about your perspective about what you think is going on? Is your desperation factor not high? You're very busy. Maybe you're just more excited about what you've got. Maybe just talk a little bit about that and whether we should or should not necessarily continue to expect bolt-ons or whatever you're thinking. Thank you.

38:17

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Well, I'm not sure, Michael, that I would acknowledge the premise of the question, but what I would say is our business development focus is very consistent. But as we've said for some time, we're looking for opportunities that align well with our four therapeutic areas of focus. We're focused on delivering consistent long-term growth, and we feel confident we're on track to do that.

Through time, obviously a meaningful portion of our revenues come from molecules that we license or acquired, and I think that will continue to be true through time. So we'd like to think that we're disciplined, Michael, in the way that we allocate capital both internally and externally. And I'd like to think, particularly when we go externally, that we see a path for our shareholders to earn a return and not just for the selling shareholders to earn a return.

Great. Next question, please, Julianne.

39:10

Our next question comes from Jeroen Werber from TD Cowan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

39:15

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Great. Thanks so much. So maybe a quick question on the upcoming Sjogren's data. The efficacy looked very good on a monthly and Q3 month. DASPRI is sort of a new endpoint that you're validating from the phase two. Is that going to support the U. S. filing while ESPRI is going to support the European filing for the symptomatic study?

And then, if you don't mind, can you file for both Q4 and Q3 months given they both hit on the primary, but only Q months hit on the secondary in the first study on dryness. Thank you.

39:49

Unidentified Management

Yerome, thank you. Especially in between the readouts of these two Phase 3s, we're probably not going to go deep today on our full regulatory strategy, but you are correct that there are different preferences around endpoints in the U. S. and rest of the world, and we've taken this very much at heart in the design of these two studies, in the primary and secondary endpoints.

40:08

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Great.

40:08

Next question, please, Julianne. Our next question comes from Chris Schott from JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

40:16

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Great. Thanks so much. Just had a question on MDeltra. Can you just elaborate a little bit more about how you're thinking about the opportune to unlock with the 305 data? And maybe as part of that, how quickly you believe the product can ramp following the ESMO data?

As part of that answer, can you also talk about the reduced monitoring requirements for the drug as well? I'm trying to get a sense of how much of a hurdle monitoring had been for uptake in the later line settings, and that obviously seems to be addressed in this earlier line setting as well. Thanks so much.

40:47

Unidentified Management

Thanks, Chris.

40:48

Murdo GordonExecutive Vice President, Global Commercial Operations

It's Myrtle here. So on the monitoring, we've got an improvement already just approved by the FDA that's now in our label in the second line setting with monitoring of less than six hours now. So that improves from the 22 to 24 hours that we're in the original label, and now we're in a much shorter monitoring period. So that's already helping the ability for primarily community oncology clinics to be able to initiate second-line patients with Indeltra. As Jay mentioned in the 305 study, the monitoring actually goes down to one to two hours.

And so there'll be hopefully a further improvement in the label as we extend that to the frontline maintenance indication. And then MDELTRA becomes a very straightforward, very simple product to initiate in that frontline maintenance setting with obviously a profound survival benefit to be had. So I think this is a medicine, given how novel it is that we've been very careful to ensure patient safety, we're now evolving in our understanding of it. And as with the Linsight, so as we've moved into earlier disease settings, we see that this is a much, much better tolerated medicine.

We really only had one patient in Delphi 305 with cytokine release syndrome of grade 3. All the other patients that experienced cytokine release syndrome experienced grades 1 and 2. So what does that mean for the opportunity? Well, it means that we believe we've established a new cornerstone therapy. We believe that nothing else thus far in the category has been able to demonstrate the kind of profound overall survival effect that we have. And I would expect that with things like updated NCCN guidelines with additional awareness of these data, the behavior change in the clinic will be rapid.

Obviously, we're moving as quick as we can to ensure regulatory filings and approvals and all the rest of it, but we are ready to support the rate of change that clinicians will affect.

I'll just say I've been talking to our field medical teams who have been out there this week and last week post-presentation of the data at ESMO, and I'm not alone in my enthusiasm for these data. practicing oncologists are blown away by just the magnitude of effect and the safety profile that we're seeing now in an earlier disease setting.

43:46

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Julianne, next question please.

43:49

Our next question comes from Umar Rafat from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

43:54

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Hi guys. Thanks again for taking my question and I just wanted to echo the sentiment from ESMO on the groundbreaking data. So Murdo, maybe just to expand on Chris's question and just to make it easier for investors to understand the magnitude of what we're dealing with here, is it possible or is it realistic for us to assume something approaching 20,000-plus patients in the U. S. being on tarlatimab? And do you envision the maintenance opportunity in Firstline alone being $5 billion-plus with induction trial next year adding additional upside? Thank you very much.

44:26

Murdo GordonExecutive Vice President, Global Commercial Operations

Well, Boomer, I think you know me by now and you know the Amgen team by now that we don't issue product-specific guidance, but you can tell by the answer to Chris's question that we're extremely excited about the data set that have been generated here. You know, the opportunity is definitely an interesting one given how rapidly patients progress in this disease area. And so in second line, you're quite limited as to the addressable patient population because unfortunately not many patients make it to second line. Their disease progresses too rapidly and they end up in hospice and they end up dying. And so as you move into the earlier lines, you know, the small cell lung cancer addressable population in the U. S. is 35,000.

So it's a decent-sized patient population. The question is, how big is it in each setting in frontline maintenance? But as I said to Chris, this is going to be a very rapid adoption, and we're going to see, hopefully, many patients on MDeltra for a long period of time. And so the duration of treatment here might be quite long as well. But I would like to turn it over to Jay on other clinical development work that we're doing on the molecule.

45:51

James BradnerExecutive Vice President, Research and Development

Yeah, thanks, Umur. The development of MDeltra remains a source of real activity here at Amgen. We're working hard to complete the limited-stage small cell lung cancer study that is an event-driven study as well now having seen the benefit of MDeltra used in the maintenance setting of frontline induction and maintenance use of MDeltra We completed as you may know a study of M that establishes an alternate dosing capability. And this is very helpful as we start to imagine combinations of M-Deltra with emerging agents, such as antibody drug conjugates. M-Deltra is showing dramatic data when combined with chemotherapy, and there's every expectation then that ADCs delivering chemotherapy should be comparably active. And we have undertaken studies with B7H3 and DLL3, and we'll have more to share there in the future.

But just as Murdoch said, not only do these combinations and advances in use of M-Deltra as a cornerstone of small cell lung cancer therapy lead to increased response rates, but durability. And we're very hopeful that as the data from the Delphi study presented in the presidential at ESMO and published in the New England Journal recently, that as these data mature, the patients will reveal to us the full benefit of the medicine. The Phase 1B frontline maintenance study, Delphi 303, that was also presented at ESMO, has matured. And with the median follow-up of 30.8 months, we saw a median overall survival of 37.9 months, which is just unheard of in this disease setting.

So we're very pleased with the development so far, but we have a lot of wood to chop for these patients going forward.

47:36

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Julianne, next question, please.

47:38

Our next question comes from David Ansellum from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

47:45

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Hey, thanks. So I have a dextilumab question. On the phase three, are you going to explore a broader cutaneous lupus population, or will it be specific to discoid lupus? That's number one. And then just thinking about this market, can you talk about sizing in terms of how you think about cutaneous lupus in that population relative to the SLE population and how these are two distinct populations and how that informs your physician targeting. Is this a dermatology call point or a rheumatology call point or a bit of both? Thank you.

48:28

Unidentified Management

Thanks for the question.

48:29

James BradnerExecutive Vice President, Research and Development

I'll start, Myrtle, and maybe you can weigh in on the outlook for the medicine. Thanks for asking about Daxilumab. We're very pleased with the activity observed so far in discoid lupus, a prevalent disease, 20 to 50 humans per 100,000. and 5% to 10% may progress to SLE. You surely appreciate that there have been innumerable mechanisms of action that have failed patients with lupus and its various manifestations. And in our Phase II study, the effect on Class Ea, where an improvement from seven points from baseline is considered clinically meaningful broadly in this population of those greater than or equal to eight at baseline, You know, improvements that we saw were negative 10 and negative 9.9 for the lower and the higher doses at week 24.

And so we're very taken with this medicine in the cutaneous manifestations of lupus. We have not as yet described completely our phase 3 design, and we will do that in the future. But it's not lost on us that we've stumbled upon a very exciting and hopeful mechanism targeting these plasmacytoid dendritic cells in this disease. Myrna?

49:43

Murdo GordonExecutive Vice President, Global Commercial Operations

No, I would just add that, you know, the prescribing population of physicians here, primarily dermatologists, which obviously we have good Amgen capabilities and experience there. And for the few rheumatologists that will pick it up, again, we have, you know, strong medical and field commercial teams covering those customers.

50:04

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Julian, next question, please.

50:07

Our next question comes from Evan Seegerman from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

50:13

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Hi, guys. Thank you so much for taking my question. I think, Jay, when we met in that small group meeting back in September, we suggested that although Maritide is administered monthly or even less frequently, like the side effect duration is comparable in length to what you get with weekly anchortons. I would love it if you could expand more on how you can measure that in kind of a phase, you know, in any of your trials. And more broadly, just given how much the space and obesity has rapidly evolved even since then, you know, remind us how Maritide fits within kind of this evolving landscape. Thank you so much.

50:46

Unidentified Management

Thanks.

50:47

James BradnerExecutive Vice President, Research and Development

Why don't I start to talk, Myrtle, about the interesting and reassuring, if not exciting, dissociation between the pharmacokinetics of Maritide and the duration of symptomatology, if you could pick up the back half of the question about segmentation.

First, I would just say, irrespective of why I think it is true, it is true that this medicine that has a very long half-life designed for tonic activation of GLP-1 receptors, as well as inhibition of GIP receptors, that has conferred activity for weight loss and type 2 diabetes with monthly dosing, every eight-week dosing, and as we described, every 12-week dosing.

It is a fact born out of prospective clinical investigation that though the durable disease activity of the medicine is quite long-lived like the molecule, the symptoms aren't. This is true also for a weekly injectable GLP-1 peptides, and so we're not surprised to see it. Now, how do we measure it, you ask? Here, we've done very exhaustive diaries in early phase clinical investigation to understand the onset, frequency, severity, and duration of symptoms. We've shared some of these early plots that we call Manhattan plots that reveal the duration of symptoms should they arise. To date, Meritide has proven very well tolerated. It's target doses and, like all GLP-1s, benefits from dose escalation.

But the durable activity of the medicine does not come with a durable side effect profile, where side effects to date are, where observed, mostly mild, sometimes moderate, and rather short-lived for a few days.

52:44

Murdo GordonExecutive Vice President, Global Commercial Operations

Myrtle? Yeah, it's an interesting observation. Evan, on the amount of activity in this category, there are certainly a lot of daily orals being developed. There's a lot of weekly injectables being developed, some even trying to stretch to monthly. But what we've not seen is a bona fide monthly drug in development that could be dosed as infrequently as six times or four times a year. And we continue to believe that Maritide is unique can differentiate it in that aspect. It's a simple three-step dose escalation. Two months, you're up to your first maintenance dose, and then you can find the most convenient dose for your weight loss journey thereafter. So I feel like we've got a compelling offering.

We're, you know, obviously looking forward to seeing the phase three data when they read out. And we're excited about coming into the market and helping many, many patients reach their weight loss goals. We've also got a broad clinical program, as you know, and that means that we'll also be able to help patients with type 2 diabetes and ASCVD and sleep apnea, among others.

54:00

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Jillian, next question, please.

54:03

Our next question comes from Jeff Meacham from Citi. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

54:08

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I had a similar one for Jay or for Murdo. So ahead of the Meritide data next year, I wanted to ask how you guys are thinking about the commercial approach, so mostly thinking about the dynamics of the new Medicare bridge program, you know, payer receptivity. How are you thinking about the OUS markets in advance of data? Thank you.

54:31

Unidentified Management

Thanks for the question, Jeff.

54:32

Murdo GordonExecutive Vice President, Global Commercial Operations

Look, I think I would start first with we're very focused on making sure that consumers and patients are very much in the focus of our go-to-market strategy. I think what we've seen in this category is that patients have a much more important role to play in activating and advocating for their own care and their own weight loss journey. So first and foremost, that is absolutely the priority.

We will scale and size accordingly. We obviously have a great cardiometabolic team here at Amgen, and we'll be ready to go to market with Maritide. I think on the access and reimbursement front, we expect our unique differentiated profile to help secure access and coverage. And obviously, we're interested in seeing what other government access programs evolve to over time. I think it's good that we've got Medicare access in this category. I think it should be expanded. XUS, I think, is going to be tougher. I think it's going to continue to be very much a consumer-driven market, XUS. but we are hopeful with outcomes data in ASCVD and with type 2 diabetes data and other quote-unquote hard endpoint clinical programs that we'll be able to secure reimbursement in many markets outside the U. S. as well.

56:05

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Okay, let's take two more questions and then we'll, as I said earlier, be available if some of you didn't get a chance to ask questions on the call. Let's go two more.

56:14

Our next question comes from Matt Phipps from William Blair. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

56:22

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

I just take my question, Chris, and a good quarter. With both the Opdivo and Keytruda BLAs filed, I'm just curious what your assumptions are around being able to – when you can commercially launch those, and how do you think about penetrating the market that is kind of being moved to subcutaneous formulation? Thank you.

56:41

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Yeah, obviously this is a competitive space here, so we're not going to have a whole lot to share with you at this point, Matt. But as you heard from Murdo's remarks, our focus is on developing these medicines, having them available for patients. And, again, we've established a pretty good track record here as a leader in biosimilars. But, Murdo, feel free to jump in if you want to add any further, Keller.

57:05

Murdo GordonExecutive Vice President, Global Commercial Operations

Well, as we always say about our focus on biosimilars, we'll be a first or first wave with those launches, which is really important to establish decent competitive position. And we believe that we're there.

57:22

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

All right. Let's go to the last question, please.

57:25

Our last question comes from Alex Hammond from Wolf Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

57:31

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Hey, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in. So unlike small-tail lung cancer, a large share of prostate cancer care occurs in neurology groups and community practices that have little experience managing CRS. So I guess, how are you planning to bring value-rated MIG to those sites, and how much could the fully outpatient cohort or sub-Q version change that? And I guess also, how important is it to not need a biomarker to help adoption compared to other treatments that require them? Thank you.

57:58

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

Terrific. Thanks for the question. Jay, why don't you share your thoughts?

58:00

James BradnerExecutive Vice President, Research and Development

Yeah, I'll share on the back-tooth side. And, Myrtle, perhaps you could talk about implementing T-cell engagers where we just have so much experience, truly the leading company in the sector.

So, for sure, helping the adoption of this medicine is experience with it. And building a comfort with T-cell engagers as a therapeutic isn't as much about the doctor as it is about the care environment, I can say, as a doctor. The reduced monitoring will go a long way to helping. as well as a fully outpatient cohort, which we have presented at ESMO in Phase 1B, which demonstrated for Xaloritomig, our STEEP-1 CD3 biospecific that you referenced, the feasibility for a more convenient administration setting.

I will say this is not trivial, but those same centers approach many other non-trivial medicines. And so we have every expectation that through clinical investigation, as well as evidence generation, we will establish confidence and comfort for prescribing urologists. as needed. You sort of threw me the basketball right under the hoop with your question around biomarkers. It helps a lot to not need a biomarker in order to enroll patients and bring access to a medicine. We have some medicines that, of course, require it. But here, the quite high, if not characteristic, expression of CEEP-1 in prostate cancer affords a chance to bring this medicine to patients without the need for stratification or qualification by a confirmatory biomarker.

Myrna?

59:33

Murdo GordonExecutive Vice President, Global Commercial Operations

Yeah, we've got obviously extensive experience, as Jay mentioned, in bringing bispecific T-cell engagers into different therapeutic contexts. We've learned a lot from our work in hematology with Blencito, now in solid tumor with Indeltra, and we have established an actual field organization we call our bispecific operations team who help with the operationalization in clinics on how to make sure that patients get the appropriate monitoring, the appropriate information at point of care. So that team is up and running. We've had it since before the launch of Indeltra. We're now running it at scale for Indeltra, and we would apply that to the GEU oncology space as well.

We've established a field medical presence with these customers and these clinicians. And we also partner very closely with patient advocacy organizations. This was a key success factor in Small Cell where the patient advocates are very good at making patients aware of how to self-monitor and how to identify any type of side effect profile that could be a side effect profile related to cytokine release syndrome. So really a lot of experience being applied to the GU space that I think will be very helpful in ensuring patient safety and ease of adoption.

1:01:04

Robert BradwayChairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President

All right. Well, thank you all for joining our call. I think I can speak for the group here that we're heartened by your focus on sources of long-term growth that have emerged with clinical data over the last few weeks. As again, I hope you can appreciate the businesses performing well, the leadership executing well, and we're looking forward to finishing the year strong.

And we'll look forward also to gathering with all of you next year to review the fourth quarter and to get launched into 2027. So thanks for your support. We'll talk to you soon.

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