Aya Gold & Silver (AYA) Q1 2026 earnings call transcript

Thank you, Operator, and welcome to everyone who has joined Aya's first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Here with me today, I have Benoit Lassalle, President and CEO, Hugo Lambry-Polstra, Chief Financial Officer, Elias Alias, Chief Legal and Sustainability Officer, Raphael Beaudoin, Vice President of Operations, and David Lalonde, Vice President of Exploration. We will be referring to a presentation on this conference call, which is available via the webcast and is also posted on our website. As we will be making forward-looking statements during the call, please refer to the cautionary notes included in the presentation, news release and MD&A, as well as the risk factors included in our annual information form. Technical information in this presentation has been reviewed and approved by Raphael Beaudoin, Aya's Vice President of Operations, and David Lalonde, Aya's Vice President of Exploration, Both of whom are IAS qualified persons as defined under National Instruments 43101 Standards of Disclosure for Mineral Projects.

I would also like to remind everyone that our presentation will be followed by a Q&A session. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Benoit Asad.

Thank you, Elizabeth. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for assisting this Q1 2026 conference call. Let me summarize the quarter before we get through the presentation. I think we need to summarize this as Q1 is an exceptional quarter for Aya. It's an exceptional quarter knowing that Q1 is always the most difficult quarter for the company as we are at 2,200 meters above sea level in the mountains with lots of snow and rain and wind. So this year, due to the fact that we lost five days of operation due to weather-related situation, we still delivered an outstanding quarter. Aya delivered record revenue, record cash flow, expanding margin, rising silver price, and lower cash costs. So we have a very strong Q1, and when you compare it to Q4 of last year with Q1 of this year, on a per-day basis, the production per day is very similar, approaching 15,000 ounces.

The reason the production is a little bit lower in Q1 is due to the fact that we lost an equivalent of about five days of production. But when you look at the highlights, it's record revenue of $117 million. It's record cash flow of $17 million. It's a record net income after tax of $49 million. It's a cash balance at the end of the quarter of unrestricted cash of $172 million. It's a production of almost 1.5 million ounces for the quarter with record mining rates, you know, really strong quarter. And as we have a record mining rate, we've also increased our stockpiles. So taking you to our presentation that we use, showing you some graphics, if we go to page four after the forward-looking statement, you see exactly what I just said.

The record revenue in Q1 2026 at $117 million, compare that to last year at $34 million. The net income of $49 million compared to last year of $7 million with an EPS of $33 fully diluted, $0.33 fully diluted, and $0.34 on a non-diluted basis. And when you look at Q1 of operating cash flow this year at $70 million compared to last year, $8 million. So, a very strong quarter. You see it on the right-hand side. We'll show you the production profile has increased from Q1 2025, where we produced a million ounces of silver, to Q1 of 2026, where we're at a million 490,000 ounces. Of course, a little bit lower than Q4 of last year, because Q4 of last year had no weather-related event, whereas Q1 of this year had approximately five days of weather-related events.

Moving on to page five of the presentation, very interesting on the left-hand side, the quarterly mining tonnage. You know, we've always been saying that the mining has to follow the plant. The plant's production profile has been, you know, 30 to 40 percent above main plate capacity, but the mine also, you know, needs to follow the plant, and the mine is actually now exceeding the plant. So you see on the left-hand side, last year, you know, we were running at 2,200 ton a day. In Q4, we were at 4,200 ton a day. And now by Q1, this quarter, we were running at 4,600 ton a day. So absolutely stellar performance from the mine, from the open pit, and from the underground mine.

The grade is also, you know, steady and improving, so we're pleased with the outcome of the mining and the grade and the throughput. And then on the right-hand side, you look at the plant. Well, in Q4, the plant was running at 3,800 ton a day. In Q1, the plant's running as well, and it's not sometimes higher, but as indicated, because of the lost days. And if some of you have followed the weather in Morocco, it was extremely rare. Like they had two times the historical average rainfall and snowfall in all of Morocco. I was there two weeks ago, and the week before that, there was snow in Marrakech, which is absolutely, you know, rare. So this is, in one way, it was a little bit difficult on the actual production, but we now have more than 15 months of inventory of water at site, and the rivers are still running.

So, you know, being a little difficult on the production was a great situation for water management, and for us, and for all the countries. Now, all the water reservoirs have been filled. Some of the reservoirs that have not seen water in many, many, many years are now full. So, the water situation globally for the country was extremely good.

Moving on to slide number six, a quick word on Boumadzin. You know, at Boumadzin, we are reclaiming the pyrite. The operation is going extremely well. We produced 127,000 ounces of silver and 1,757 ounces of gold, a little bit lower than what we wanted it to be. Again, weather-related because, of course, the bad weather of Zgondaya was also weather-related at Boumadine. And the other situation with Boumadine is because we are exporting the pyrite tonnage. The ports in Morocco were shut down for one month because of weather, because of floods. So, of course, that's why the silver equivalent sold, when you look at page 6, you see the silver equivalent produced of 227,000 ounces and only 50,000 ounces sold.

One reason, exporting. We produce it, we ship it to port, and then it stayed there because we could not ship it just because of very, very difficult weather. All of that is behind us. It's probably now going to rain next time in November or December. It's all behind us. But the reality was that even at Boumadin, we were a little bit affected, especially on the shipment of the concentrate to Asia. But the Boumadin project is really an add-on to Scundang. It's minimal capex, very, very low cash cost. It's positive cash flow. The grade reconciliation is actually better. The gold grade is a little bit better. The silver grade is better than what we had in our model.

So globally, it's a very profitable project, which is at the same time an ESG project because we're cleaning all of the historical waste that was left there for many, many years. So it's still going on, and it's accelerating now in Q2, Q3, and Q4. We are accelerating the reclamation of the Boumadin pyre. Going to page 7 of the presentation, this again coming back to last quarter, this is the most important slide. The one on the left is the margin. Look at the margins from Q1 2025 to Q1 2026. You know, we were working with a $12 margin in Q1 last year and staying at $12 in Q2 of last year, and then margins started going up to $20 in Q3, and then you saw to about $40 in Q4, and now margins right now are like $63 in Q1 of 2026.

And obviously, you are following the silver price, and we're seeing that this is a very strong silver price at the moment, and our costs are stable. We are not affected greatly by the war and the increase in fuel price. We are. Cyanide went up a little bit. We're going to see that in Q2, but it's marginal. The main reason is our electricity is from the grid, and it's solar and wind. So like most companies are affected because they need to generate their own power at Zgunder, and it will be the same at Boumadzin. The power is solar and wind. So we do not expect costs to increase more than maybe $1 an ounce if they increase by that much.

And the reason is really because of the source of energy. On the right-hand side, you see the growth of revenue, and obviously, as I said, Q1 at $170 million US dollar of revenue with a net income after tax of $49 million. This is a very strong performance of revenue increasing. Of course, it's due to the silver price, as we understand what the production profile is, but the silver price was extremely good in Q1. Our highest selling unit or selling price in Q1 at one point, we were able to sell close to $120 an ounce. So it showing and now the average of 82 as we speak right now the silver price is higher than the average of Q1 2026 And the net income well net income after tax of 49 million with an EPS of Taking us to page 8 a very strong balance sheet We finished the quarter with million in the bank On top of that we have the restricted cash that we have for the EBRD loan of million So when you look at this, it's a very, very strong cash position, a strong balance sheet, only one debt with EBRD, which is now below $100 million, and which we could pay, but it's a very good and not so expensive loan with EBRD.

So there's no point in pushing the repayment of that debt. When you look at cash from operation at $70 million, our capital expenditure program is $4 million. The expiration and evaluation expiration mainly is $14 million. We had a very good quarter on expiration, and I'll talk about the drilling. So all in all, when you look at this with an $18 cash cost and all the capital expenditure behind us, it's a very, very profitable quarter.

Moving to page nine, which is our guidance. So our guidance was presented to you at the beginning of 2026. We are maintaining our guidance. Though we are a little bit below where we want it to be in our production guidance, we knew that Q1 is always a little bit weaker than the rest of the year because of seasonality, and we knew that, so that was part of our planning, and we're very comfortable with our guidance of 6.2 to 6.8 million ounces. The Zgunder production between 5.2 and 5.8. The Boumadin at 1 million ounces of silver equivalent. We're very comfortable with that. Now, when you look at the Zgunder cash cost at 21.50, I understand that we were at 18 this quarter, but it's a question of the strip ratio, and we know that over time, we're going to be a little bit higher than this.

So we're comfortable to say that on the guidance at 2150 is where it should be. The boom ad in cash costs at 1010. In Q4, it was six. In Q1 of this year, it's more like 11. We're very close. We are also going to ramp up on quantity. And in ramping up on quantity, obviously, the cash cost per ounce will come down a little bit. On the sustaining and growth capital, sustaining is about half, 18, and growth capital is 18 for a total of 36. The main growth capital is really we're pushing the ramp down all the way down to the granite so that we can go and reach those lower levels where we see high-grade silver.

And on the exploration expenditure, well, the budget is $60 million. As you know, as a company, we plan to drill close to 240,000 meters this year. This is ongoing. We have always between 14 and 18 drills starting. David has a team of almost 400 people in exploration, including all the drillers. So it's a large program, but we need that program to convert the resource at Boumedzin from inferred to measured and indicated for the feasibility study of next year. Taking you to slide number 10, where are we going this year? What are the priorities? Well, look, Bumadzin is a top priority. We're very happy and very, you know, in an extremely good position that we can do Bumadzin with no outside debt, no equity financing.

And we have the money available to push on BUMED. So we are pushing on the feasibility study, which we want to be ready for next year, 2027, and also the updated PEA, which will be ready by the end of June, beginning of July. And so we are stepping up on every aspect. I always say every chapter of the study, make it water, TSS, energy, flow sheet, logistics, every chapter is being worked on, and as soon as it's ready, it's being executed. So the feasibility study is ongoing. We have identified the contractors for the open pit. We have identified the contractors for the flow sheet. We will be going into detail engineering shortly. I mean, we are working with our partners on logistics.

All of that is moving towards completion of the feasibility next year and beginning of construction. On the drilling front at Boumadin, we drilled in Q1, obviously, 42,000 meters. And you know, this was the ramp up, plus it was the one month of Ramadan, which we, during Ramadan, sometimes we do not drill as much, and we do have a week off at the end of Ramadan. So, at 4Q1, we've drilled 42,000 meters. We're stepping up there because the objective is 180,000 meters for the main structure and an additional 20,000 meters on the regional plate. So, that is being done, and we will be delivering on that. At Zgoudin, the plan is, well, just be more efficient, control your costs, make sure that we maximize our revenue, that the mining is very precise, that there's no dilution.

And the key thing at $80 or $90 silver is let's not leave an ounce behind and sterilize those ounces. We take it out. If it's between 50 and 80 gram per ton, we stockpile it. We expense it. It's in the cash cost, but we stockpile it. And if it is between 80 and the deposit grade, we put it through, we have a stockpile, and then we put it through the plant. So it's extremely important for us to maximize what we're mining, the ounces that we're mining, and that's why we're running way above 4,000 ton per day, and controlling costs. We've also been working on the tailings facility because originally the tailings was planned for 2,800 ton a day.

We're now running close to 4,000 ton a day. So we've decided to do the first phase of the tailings construction to increase the tailings capacity, and that will be done this summer. We will be all done over the summer. So, when you look on page 11 of where we are, we have Zgunder that will be producing life of mine, 6 million ounces a year. Life of mine cash cost at $16, ASIC around $19. Life of mine, extremely profitable, and that is only from one structure. You will see, in the coming weeks, some more exploration results coming out of Secondaire, because, of course, at Secondaire, we would like to increase the life of mine from 11 years, hopefully, to 15 years, and, if possible, even increase the throughput.

Our development asset, Boumadine, well, that is the PEA is being reviewed. The resource update will come with the PEA. As of the end of 2024, we were looking at 450 million ounces of silver equivalent. That will be updated because we've drilled more than one year the structure, so that will be updated, and it will be included in the new PEA. But on the right-hand side, to me, that's the most important strategic view of Aya, is we are currently a 6 million ounce producer at $19 all-in life of mine at Gunde. We will add to that by 2029 37 million ounces of silver production equivalent at an all-in cost of $14, making us a 43 million ounce producer, of course, silver equivalent.

And that will have an average ASIC when you look at 20 or 19 for Zgunder and 14 for Boumadin. You're looking at mid-team for an ASIC. Depending what silver price you want to assume, you can do the math.

On top of that, Aya is a major exploration place. We have two districts. We have the Boumadin district, And we have the Zgunder district. So not only do you have two projects, you have two mines. You have the Zgunder mine and you have the Boumadzin in development mine. You have the Boumadzin regional play. And that is an extremely large play. We have 800 square kilometers. We will be drilling there 20,000 meters on the regional play. We will be pushing the drilling on the main zone up to 180,000 meters. And on the exploration on the regional, as we keep telling the team, you know, as soon as you have another structure where you want to really drill it out, just come back to the committee and to the management committee, and we will give you more budget.

So Boumanzin as an exploration play is very unique. It's got big systems. The main zone is over 5.4 kilometers. You have also ACRM, which is an 8-kilometer-long structure. I mean, we have very, very, very strong zone. TZ is a parallel zone, and it's also 5.4 kilometers long. So, Brumazine is a major regional play. And Sgunder, well, Sgunder is, we've done a lot of work. We've done a lot of geological work. We've used AI. We have many targets. We have new theories and new geological concepts behind Sgunder that we're going to be testing this year. So it is also a very interesting geological play. So in Aya, you have all the geological upside of a major, major exploration company drilling 230, 240,000 ounces, 240,000 meters of exploration drilling coming in 2026.

And then you have the production coming from Sgundere, and you have the development at Boumantou. So, again, to conclude and to go into the Q&A period, very strong quarter. In our weakest quarter, as planned, we are pleased with the production. We are confirming our guidance and we look forward to a stronger Q2 and much stronger Q4 and Q5 to close the year again And based on the silver price it should be an extremely profitable year So thank you and I will turn it back to the operator for the Q period Thank you.

Thank you for your question. I will pass it over to Ralph who was at site for all of that period and will tell you what we have done to mitigate the risk of weather related events and what it does to our production profile, which is only in Q1 by the way, because after that it's sunshine for the rest of the year.

So we're in the mountain, and as a good mountain climate, when it rains, it pours. So that essentially results into stickiness of the ore and decreases throughput of the crushing circuit. To catch up, and it's something we've been working on for a while to increase the crushing throughput, which is the actual bottleneck in the plant, we did in Q1 3,633 tons per day on average in Q1. And as soon as sunshine came back in April, we're back on track at 4,000 right there in April. So the worst is behind us for the rest of the year, essentially. But to answer your question, to mitigate that, we gave a small contract to a contractor, a crushing contractor, that is up in an operation now, a bit as a contingency for weather and also to help de-bottleneck the plant a bit from the crushing side.

So this contractor will stay there as long as we need it, and we're also contemplating to increase our own crushing capacity within this Gunder plant, and that's something under study that we should be able to make a decision on that soon. But bottom line is we have a contractor that helps us out since maybe a bit less than a month now that can compensate for a bit lower crushing capacity to make sure the plants remain saturated.

And the stockpile? Oh yeah, sorry. So the stockpile, we set about 300,000 tons right now. It's close to a three month's worth of production. It's a buffer that I'm personally comfortable with. We've been really pushing over the last year to bring the open pit to steady state. Now we're producing comfortably over 3,000 tons per day in the open pit with peaks much above that. It gives us time to do the pushback if we want to later on this year. It gives us time to shut down upper levels in the underground that will be mined in the open pit. So it's a flexibility that we always believed in that helped us out in many ways. So to answer your question, 300,000 tons is probably where we want to be.

It gives us the flexibility we need for future pushback and the flexibility to maximize, again, the ore recovery by the open pit. So now that we've reached this capacity and this flexibility, we will look to continue optimizing the underground development, especially on the sub-levels. So we can focus now more our efforts into the lower levels and keep the stockpile around $300,000. I wouldn't be surprised. We see it go down a bit through the year, which is fine. That's where it's there.

Well, for the current PyRite reclaim, we essentially dig a PyRite stockpile, we crush it, and we send it in trucks. So our costs are really low. Our costs will remain for the rest of the operation, but it's tough to make a parallel with that with our future Bumadian project. It has nothing to do – this is a small project. It's going to be reclaimed for the next two years. It gives good cash flow. So it's a good exercise to start building a small operating team at Boumadzin and to have more presence on our Boumadzin site as we go from PA to feasibility to construction. But one is not comparable with another.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Hi, Justin. Yeah, good question, actually. As you all know, we've been pushing Tannage both in the underground, the open pit. We really wanted to bring back the stockpile we deserved, show everybody we could have a good throughput as Gunder. We have a full team on the ground. The open pit has showed it can deliver. Now the open pit is wide open. We have room to work. So first for your strip ratio, we expect the long-term strip ratio to be what we publish in our latest 43-101. So this strip ratio of 9, it's temporary. We will have months at 8 or 9 like we have now, and we will have months at 20 like we had in the past.

Overall, it's between 13 and 16, and this is what we expect on the longer term.

And so for the underground, absolutely. We've been at a rate of over 1,500 tons per day underground, and we have some of these levels that we want to shut them down because we want to increase the maximum or recovery through the open pit. So to answer your question, yes, there will be a shift in focus in Q2 moving on for the rest of the year to accelerate the ramp down and to transfer some of this production power into stove development and sublevel development. We're comfortable at the underground rate at around 1,000 ton per day is something we're comfortable with because the open pit is well established now. So you can expect moving on to have the rate of the underground to slightly decrease 1,000 to 1,300 ton per day is probably the sweet spot we need to really focus on those sub-levels for which we also know we have pretty good grade going down.

So, again, what we publish in our feasibility is above 3,600 this year and 3,850 next year. Internally, we're trying to beat that. Our best days right now are around 4,300 tons per day. Those are punctual, like best daily performance. I think, Justin, around 3,800 is probably where we'll be comfortably at in the near future. We're really pushing this plant, as you know. Nameplate is 2,700. Now we're near 4,000. It's difficult for me to speculate above that because we need to go bottleneck after bottleneck. I think there's a bit of juice left in the plant, but we need extra crushing capacity for that. So $3,800 is probably where we would be. Some good months above that, some bad months around that.

But to answer your question, $3,800, including the mobile crusher, that we'll keep as long as we need.

Hi Justin, it's Hugo. For sales of BoomAdzin, it's not that the clients don't want it. I think we get called every week and they said, can we get more material? So especially with what's happening in the sulfur market today. So we are logistics by truck, like we're learning it. So it's going to be spread out throughout the year and we're trying to modify things a little bit to send larger shipments. And so that on that, I think it's going to be through the year, but the 1 million ounces of silver equivalent is still what we're on track to do.

And in terms of payability, it's not going to change because it's old material that's been there for a long time. The sulfur quantity is a lot less than fresh rock from Bumezin, and so the payabilities aren't going to – and the volumes are small on the 2,000 to 240,000 tons total. So we've agreed on a price and a contract with our traders, so that's not going to change throughout that stockpile.

So Justin, if I can add on payability, the payability is changing on the bigger project, because that has 45% software. As you said, the tailings is a bit worn out, so it's got very good gold and silver content. Pyrite is a bit tired so it not changing on the small project but on the bigger project it is changing in an important way Yeah absolutely Okay thanks very much That really helpful Collier Thanks Hugo and thanks Benoit and thanks overall I forget the line Thanks, Justin.

First one, Q1, it was the fourth quarter in a row where unit costs at Segunda are on a per-ton basis I can comment a bit on the ounce unit cost. Our costs have been going down, and we're happy about that. That throughput has been going up and production has been stabilizing in the open pit and the underground. Now, a lot of that unit cost saving comes from the underground unit cost per ton as well as the open pit unit cost per ton. And we've also had gains in the plants as we process more throughput and stabilizer cyanide consumption. So we've been winning on all fronts, including site services and surface and utilities. As we're toward being more mature operation, we're happy to see that.

Now, that being said, there is a lot of cost fluctuation at Gunder based on the open pit strip ratio, as you can imagine. So depending on the sequencing, we have months. Now, this quarter's strip ratio was around nine, which is quite exceptional. No, the overall strip ratio of the open pit gets better through the life of mine. And again, we've made that quite clear in our latest 43-101, but it will increase slightly this year.

Especially towards the end of the year, we'll have a bit higher strip ratio in the open pit, and I expect our strip ratio for the year to sit between 13 and 16. So we'll continue to improve our overall cost, but inherently the open pit will be more expensive in terms of cost per tonne because we'll converge more toward the 13 to 16 strip ratio as opposed to 9.

And let's not forget underground, we need to develop new stoves. Now we have lower levels around 1925 that are operating, that costs are good, but on the long term, the underground cost of the Gunder mine will slowly creep up as we go deeper and deeper, which is also normal and captured in our projections.

You go? Yeah, so income tax rate. So I think five years ago, the government of Morocco, when we were back at 20%, had put out a new law and said that it was an increase to 35% in 2026. The Aya Gold & Silver Inc, which is a 5% solidarity tax, which is supposed to be temporary. It's been three years now and going on a fourth year of that tax being in existence. We are one of 187 companies in Morocco that pay that tax rate. Everybody else that makes less than 100 million dirhams of profit pays 20%. We know there is the World Cup coming. I think the government, like all governments, needs money. But more and more we are starting to see companies like ourselves within the 127 that are saying, hey, 40% income tax is It's simply not competitive.

I would expect that 27 moving on, at least that 5% falls away, and then we'll see what happens with the additional tax rate. It's our biggest call today.

Yeah, so if we want to repay all debt, there's prepayment penalties. We do have a slight out is that we can do cash sweeps out of the country back to head office and we have a cash sweep of 30%. And with that comes no prepayment. So we have to do that at specific timings when we repay capital in January and July. So assuming things continue like this, I think we're going to be using that option to cash-weave money out of the country and then force a cash-weave and prepay something like that. That's the expectation. But capital costs and cash has to keep going up, but assuming it does, I think that's an option we'll use.

Sure. So the first phase was obviously a short one to keep capital costs throughout the initial construction. Phase two is our biggest raise. So we have about two years and a half of storage in it. Obviously it went down because throughput went up quite a bit. So we have over two years and a half, after which we have another phase planned.

Well, Ralph is with us today, and he's in charge of the team that's overseeing the Boumadine study, so I guess it's the right time to ask him.

So, in the PEA, we had a capex or a healthy contingency for that level of the study. And at that point, as we're advancing through this updated PEA and also the feasibility study, we will have some extra costs as we define and detail the project, but we'll also reduce the contingency as the project is well defined. So right now we said that we don't expect capital to go higher than the PEA or sit in the same range.

Well, the good news is we already have the process unit, the cone crusher, we have it. So that's a relief. And once we decide to go ahead with that expansion, we're probably looking to a nine-month expansion. So, yeah, it's something that can be done probably within a year, and it's not really important because in the meantime, we have the crushing contractor that then bridge that gap.

Thank you, operator. Thank you for all the questions. Look, what is coming for us now, as I mentioned it, we'll have some exploration results coming in the next few weeks. We'll have a Boumadin exploration press release in the next week or two. We'll have the same at Zgunder. We also are looking at in-country consolidation of ground because Morocco is very interesting. It's got fantastic geology and we have a first mover advantage and we are taking advantage of this. So you can expect some more news from us. We will be on the road for the coming two months meeting some of our shareholders in the United States and in Europe. As you are fully aware, we started trading a week ago or 10 days ago on NASDAQ.

It's going extremely well. We are getting a lot of positive feedback, so we are really pleased with the NASDAQ listing. So globally, and again, I will close on this, you know, Aya is a company that is in Morocco, focusing in Morocco, where the geology is exceptional. We can see it on our discovery cost. There were some slides that were put together by a competitor recently on discovery cost, and we have the lowest discovery cost in our industry because of the geology. The jurisdiction is probably one of the best in the world with the permitting, with the employees, with the people. We are in a country that does not just tolerate mining, but in a country where mining is part of their strategic plan, and they want it to be very successful.

We have a team at Aya now which has built many, many mines and has shown geological expertise. So you have a very strong growth profile with Boumadine being developed and starting to to be billed in the next few quarters towards a 37 million ounces of annual production of silver equivalent coming at Boumadzin, which is just from only one structure. So you have beautiful growth profile in the company. You have core assets with two districts, the Boumadzin district and the Zgunder district. And you have a company that will spend 60 million U. S. in exploration drilling over 200,000 meters and over 230,000 meters this year. So major geological upside, strong cash flow, great core assets in one of the best jurisdictions in the world.

So, look, we will be coming back to follow Morocco in the World Cup of Soccer, or what they call football, because they have an amazing team, and that will be the topic of all the news flow coming out of Morocco for the next couple of months. So again, thank you so much for participating in this conference call. We look forward to seeing you at the Q2 call, and for many of you, we will be seeing you in all the conferences that are starting next week in Vegas and continuing to London the week after and on and on for the rest till the Rick Rule conference in July in Boca Raton. And then we should take a few weeks off for the summer.

So thank you very much. We'll see you in the coming weeks, and otherwise we'll see you at the Q2 conference call in August.