Arteris (AIP) Q2 2026 earnings call transcript

Transcript, summary, guidance, and what analysts pressed on from the Arteris, Inc. call on August 6, 2026.

Held
August 6, 2026
Length
40 min
Tone
Confident0.82
Analysts
5
Words
5,259
Q3 ACV plus royalties
$99-$103 million
Q3 revenue guidance
$24-$25 million
FY26 revenue guidance
$95-$98 millionup $3.5 million
FY26 ending ACV plus royalties
$102-$106 million
RPO
$135 millionover half converts within 12 months
Long-term royalty CAGR
high 30s to low 40s percentmanagement reaffirmed
Quarterly RSU payroll taxes
$1.7 millionFrench employer taxes
ATM proceeds
approximately $72 millionnet proceeds

Summary

Management framed demand as broadening beyond AI infrastructure, while raising revenue guidance despite payroll taxes and lower-margin security government work.

  • $1.7M$1.7 million of French employer payroll taxes reduced quarterly non-GAAP operating income.
  • 10%No customer exceeded 10% of first-half license revenue, underscoring diversification.
  • Royalty growth remains above its long-term target, but management declined to raise that target yet.

Guidance

  • $103MQ3 ACV plus royalties $99-$103 million.
  • $25MQ3 revenue $24-$25 million.
  • $1MQ3 non-GAAP operating loss $3-$1 million.
  • $106MFY26 ending ACV plus royalties $102-$106 million.
  • $98MFY26 revenue $95-$98 million, up $3.5 million from prior guidance.
  • $7MFY26 non-GAAP operating loss $10-$7 million.
  • Long-term royalty CAGR high 30s to low 40s percent.
  • Quarterly free cash flow guidance discontinued.

What analysts pressed on

  • 01Cycuity commercialization: ARM is a greenfield customer, but the product currently carries no royalties.
  • 02Hyperscaler ASIC adoption: a previously small customer selected Arteris after extensive evaluation for partner-built designs.
  • 03Li Auto royalties: shipments have started, but management said future scale remains uncertain.
  • 04Royalty cadence: one customer’s logistical issues delayed shipments, though management characterized the pause as temporary.
  • 05Expense outlook: payroll taxes, commissions, and lower-margin government security work explain reduced profitability guidance.
  • 06Physical AI cycles: robotics should design faster than automotive but slower than data-center accelerators.

Notable disclosures

  • $1.7M$1.7 million of quarterly French RSU payroll taxes reflected unusually high stock-price-driven vesting costs.
  • $135MMore than half of $135 million RPO is expected to convert into revenue during the next twelve months.
  • Cycuity’s ARM opportunity is non-royalty-bearing today, with possible future integration between security and network-on-chip products.
  • Li Auto has begun sending royalty checks as vehicles containing Arteris-designed chips ship.
  • Saurab Sinha becomes CFO on September 8, 2026, replacing retiring Nick Hawkins.

Risks raised

  • Government security work carries materially lower gross margins than traditional organic and commercial business.
  • Royalty shipments can fluctuate because of customer logistics, supply chains, or channel inventory corrections.
  • Higher stock prices can unexpectedly increase French employer payroll taxes on RSU vesting.
  • Data-center investment could change, although management expects AI demand across applications to offset that risk.

Tone: Confident 0.82

The call conveyed strong demand, record bookings, and raised revenue guidance, with profitability pressure limited to identifiable costs and mix.

Who spoke

Company

  • Erica MannionInvestor Relations
  • Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer
  • Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

Analysts

  • Martin YangAnalyst, Oppenheimer
  • Suji DesilvaAnalyst, Roth Capital
  • Unidentified AnalystAnalyst
  • Kevin CassidyAnalyst
  • Josh BuchalterAnalyst, TD Cowen

Full transcript

Analyst questions are marked with a bar. Timestamps are into the recording.

Prepared remarks

00:00

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Arteris second quarter, 2026 earnings call. Please note this call is being recorded and simultaneously webcast. All material contained in the webcast is the sole property and copyright of Arteris, with all rights reserved.

00:20

Erica MannionInvestor Relations

For opening remarks and introductions, I would now like to turn the call over to Erica Mannion at Sudfire Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Thank you, and good afternoon. With me today from Arteris are Charlie Janet, Chief Executive Officer, and Nick Hawkins, Chief Financial Officer. Charlie will begin with a brief review of the business results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2026. Inc will review the financial results for the second quarter of 2026, followed by the company's outlook for the third quarter and the full year of 2026. We will then open the call for questions. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that management will make statements during this call that are forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws.

These statements are based on management's current expectations and assumptions and involve material risks and uncertainties that cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated, and you should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements. Additional information regarding these risks, uncertainties, and factors that could cause results to differ appear in the press release Arteris issued today and then in the documents and reports filed by Arteris from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Please note, during this call, we will cite certain non-GAAP measures, including, among others, non-GAAP net loss, non-GAAP net loss per share, and free cash flow, which are not measures prepared in accordance with U. S. GAAP. The non-GAAP measures are presented as we believe that they provide investors with a means of evaluating and understanding how the company management evaluates the company's operating performance.

These non-GAAP measures should not be considered in isolation from, as substitutes for, or superior to financial measures prepared in accordance with U. S. GAAP. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the nearest GAAP measure can be found in the press release for the quarter into June 30, 2026. In addition, for a definition of certain of the key performance indicators used in this presentation, such as annual contract value and remaining performance obligations, please see the press release for the quarter ended June 30, 2026. These key performance indicators are presented for supplemental informational purposes only, should not be considered a substitute for financial information presented in accordance with GAAP, and may differ from similarly titled metrics or measures used by other companies, securities analysts, or investors.

listeners who do not have a copy of the press release for the quarter ended June 30, 2026, may obtain a copy by visiting the investor relations section of the company's website.

In addition, management will be referring to the second quarter 2026 earnings presentation, which can be found in the investor relations section of the company's website under the events and presentations tab.

03:34

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

Now, I will turn the call over to Charlie. Thank you, Erika, and thanks to everyone for joining us on our call today. The Arteris' second quarter of 2026 produced multiple record-breaking results. We reached another record annual contract value plus royalties, exiting the quarter at $99.5 million, representing a 44% year-on-year increase. We achieved record revenue, royalties, and RPO backlog. Licensed deal flow in a quarter was driven by several large deals with existing and new customers.

These wins spanned all key verticals, led by growth in enterprise computing and automotive, followed by aerospace and defense, communications, consumer electronics, and industrial markets, for varieties of semiconductors, including chiplets, system-on-chip or SOCs, application-specific integrated circuits or ASICs, Field programmable gate arrays or FPGAs and microcontrollers. Further to our diversification strategy, no single customer made up more than 10% of our revenue in the first half of 2026.

Our customer design activity was healthy again in a quarter. For the trailing 12 months to June 30th, 2026, our customers reported 21% higher number of design starts year over year. Rapidly evolving high-performance computing or HPC workloads continue to drive demand for more complex chips and chiplets across data centers, smart jet devices, and physical AI systems. This, in turn, is increasing the demand for Ateris products that help deliver the underlying high-performance, efficient, safe, and secure data movement essential to semiconductors in the AI era. In the second quarter of 2026, the majority of our customers' design starts supported AI or HPC use cases as part of the device, and this trend is continuing.

Data center chip and chiplet development continues to be a key revenue driver for Ateris. Over the past four quarters, enterprise computing has made up an average of 29% of Ateris ACV plus royalties, with AI infrastructure representing some of the biggest deals in the second quarter. As an example, one of the world's largest hyperscale cloud companies has chosen to adopt and standardize Ateris for its infrastructure silicon system IP. Arteris technology will enable the high-performance and energy-efficient semiconductor data movement for the next generation of data centers.

Large-scale compute must adapt quickly for rapidly evolving software workloads that require ASICs, SOCs, and chiplets with interconnect that can support the throughput bandwidth and power requirements, making Arteris the obvious choice for scale-up and scale-out architectures. Another example of Arteris progress in data center applications was a large win with one of the top US semiconductor design houses building custom ASICs for various hyperscalers, where Arteris FlexGen Smart Knock IP is increasingly being used for the underlying data movement in chiplets and multi-dial chips to support high-end scale-up AI compute. Additionally, we announced that SpeedData, developer of the Purpose-Built Analytics Processing Unit, or APU, has deployed Arteris in its Callisto processor that runs large-volume analytics processing for applications which require high-bandwidth-capable chips, often in data centers.

Physical AI, from automotive to aerospace and defense, and along with industrial applications such as robotics, continues to experience strong and growing demand for Arteris products and solutions.

Here, performance, energy, safety, security, and proven reliability are essential for foundational semiconductors. Li Auto, a leader in China's new energy vehicle market, has successfully deployed its in-house designed autonomous driving chips in their newest SUV model. Multiple chips designed with Arteris are used in each vehicle and run 2,560 trillion operations per second or tops to effectively and safely perform autonomous driving and other advanced driving tasks. As customers take deliveries of these vehicles, we are starting to see initial royalty contributions.

Another example is SciEngine, a provider of advanced automotive chips selecting Arteris for its next-generation SOC platforms for the intelligent cockpit, advanced driver assistance applications, and AI cockpit drive fusion solution with high performance and functional safety requirements. On the product side, we're seeing equally strong momentum with customer adoption of new technologies. Following the acquisition of SciQuiity earlier this year, which provides semiconductor cybersecurity assurance, we recently announced an expanded partnership with ARM. The SciQuiity hardware security assurance technology is already in use by ARM during the design phase of selected CPUs. Moving forward, ARM engineering teams are expanding their adoption of SciCuity technology across additional next-generation processors to help identify and mitigate potential security weaknesses and vulnerabilities supporting the delivery of robust and resilient CPUs.

We are honored to be supporting the ARM leadership in the application of cybersecurity hardware assurance for safer CPU hardware. We see similar cybersecurity hardware assurance opportunities with other IP suppliers semiconductor companies and system houses building silicon for applications ranging from AI infrastructure to mission critical applications where cybersecurity is rapidly moving from a should to a must technology accelerated by rapid development in frontier AI models and growing sets of required standards and regulations On the NOC IP front, the number of FlexGen smart NOC customers continues to grow as customers are increasingly seeing the value in automation and wire length efficiency, which helps reduce power. Arteris smart knock IP offers. In the first half of 2026, we closed multiple seven-figure deals for FlexGen with major semiconductor customers.

On the ecosystem front, we announced a collaboration with IC-Link by Imec, which is Imec's service provider for high-end ASICs and silicon photonics. Arteris technology will be deployed as part of their ongoing efforts to accelerate and simplify the development of next-generation HPC chiplets and ASIC chips.

Our customers continue to innovate in exciting high-growth areas. All of these require a combination of high-performance, energy efficiency, safety, and security. Overall, Arteris continues to be in a strong position to support growing semiconductor applications in the AI era across data centers, edge devices, and physical AI systems, helping customers to innovate and develop their next generation of silicon chips and chiplets with our technology. I'm happy also to announce that we have completed our ATM program, raising $72 million to support our ability to invest in industry-leading system IP products, global customer support, and additional Tuckin acquisitions.

As previously announced, Nick Hawkins will be retiring following a distinguished tenure as our CFO. So, Inc helped lead Arteris through its successful IPO, built an excellent finance organization, delivered at or above financial guidance on nearly all financial metrics, and was instrumental in achieving a positive free cash flow operation while laying the foundation for near-future non-GAAP profitability. I'm very grateful for his leadership and contribution to Arteris over the years, and wish him the best in the next chapter of his life.

I am pleased to share that Saurab Sinha will join Arteris as our new CFO starting on September 8, 2026. Saurab comes to us from Ava Technologies, where he was instrumental in taking the company public on NASDAQ and in managing financial operations, capital allocation, and investor relations. We expect a smooth transition and remain focused on executing our strategy, meeting our customers' growing needs, and delivering shareholder value.

With that, I want to again thank Nick for having been an invaluable partner, and I'll turn it over to him one last time to discuss our financial results in more detail.

12:53

Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

Thank you, Charlie. Good afternoon, everyone. As Charlie mentioned, this is my final earnings call for Ateris, and I am delighted to be handing over the reins to Sarov next month. I have absolute confidence that he will continue the solid financial stewardship of the company, and he will be supported by our exceptional global finance team. This has been a great and enjoyable journey, and together we have delivered many remarkable achievements that have benefited our stockholders and our people.

As I review our second quarter results for 2026 today, please note I will be referring to GAAP as well as non-GAAP metrics. Please also note that a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financials is included in today's earnings release, which is available on our website. Also, as a reminder, I will be referring to the 2Q2026 earnings presentation, which can be found in the investor relations section of the company's website under the events and presentations tab.

We had a strong second quarter, beating the top end of our guidance for revenue and ACV plus royalties. Non-gap operating income was impacted by unexpectedly high employer payroll taxes related to French employee RSU vesting, which totaled $1.7 million in the quarter. And this increased expense was driven by a much higher stock price during the June quarter.

Turning to slide 5 of the presentation, total revenue for the second quarter was $24.1 million, up 46% year-over-year, and above the top end of our guidance range.

Notably, trailing 12-month royalties was $8.6 million, 65% higher year-over-year, setting a new record high. Royalties continue to show strong growth, driven by a healthy mix of customers across all of our verticals, and with exciting new royalty streams coming online every quarter. At the end of the second quarter, ACV Plus Royalties was $99.5 million, up 44% year over year, above the top end of our guidance range, once again, a new record high. The remaining performance obligations of our RPO, which is our contracted future revenue, at the end of the second quarter totaled $135 million, another all-time high for Ateris.

We expect just over half our RPO at the end of the second quarter will be recognized as revenue in the 12 months starting July 1, 2026.

Non-GAP gross profit in the quarter was $21 million, representing a gross margin of 87%. Gap gross profit in the quarter was $20.5 million, representing a gross margin of 85%. A reminder that our 2026 gross margin now reflects the inclusion of subcontractor costs as cost of revenue for certain security government contracts.

Now moving to slide six. Non-GAAP operating expense in the quarter was $25.5 million. Our OPEX was slightly above trend as a result of the RSU-driven payroll taxes that I mentioned earlier, together with higher commissions resulting from a very strong deal flow quarter. As a reminder, our long-term operating leverage model is to limit our OPEX growth rate to approximately half our revenue growth rate. We continue to believe that our investments into product development and customer success will help to accelerate our top-line growth in coming years.

Total gap operating expense for the second quarter was $34.4 million, which included acquisition-related expenses of $2.2 million. Non-gap operating loss in the quarter was $4.6 million. Gap operating loss for the quarter was $13.9 million. Non-GAAP net loss in the quarter was $4.7 million, or diluted net loss per share of $0.10.

GAAP net loss in the quarter was $14.1 million, or diluted net loss per share of $0.30. Moving to slide 7 and turning to the balance sheet and cash flow. We ended the quarter with $123 million in cash, cash equivalents, and investments, and we have no financial debt. The overall $81.6 million increase in cash, cash equivalents and investments in the quarter was driven by the successful ATM execution, which raised approximately $72 million of net proceeds at an average price of over $35, coupled with $8.6 million positive free cash flow in the second quarter, which brought the trailing 12-month free cash flow to positive $6.8 million. I would now like to turn to the outlook for the third quarter and the full year, 2026, and refer now to slide eight.

For the sake of clarity, NGI guidance for the third quarter and the full year takes into account the higher run rate of French employer payroll taxes on RSU vesting. For the third quarter, we expect ACB plus royalties of $99 to $103 million, revenue of $24 to $25 million, non-gap operating loss of $3 to $1 million.

As a reminder, we are no longer guiding quarterly free cash flow. As we look forward to the full year of 2026, we are seeing continued strength in semiconductors and signs of an upward trend cycle in the market. Consequently, we are raising our full-year revenue guidance. For the full-year 2026, our guidance is as follows. ACB Plus royalties to exit 2026 at $102 to $106 million.

Revenue of $95 to $98 million, an increase of $3.5 million from prior guidance, and representing a 37% year-over-year increase at the midpoint.

Non-GAAP operating loss of between $10 to $7 million. We are seeing a strong start to the third quarter, with momentum and increasing customer engagement, leading us to believe that we will see continued strength in the second half of the year. Building on our strong revenue growth, coupled with carefully focused expense discipline that is delivering operating leverage, we continue to believe that Arteris is on a path to profitability, and we expect to report a non-GAAP operating profit for a period as early as the fourth quarter in the current year.

19:40

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

With that, I will turn the call back to the operator for the Q&A portion of the call.

Questions and answers

19:44

Thank you Thank you ladies and gentlemen If you like to ask a question please press star 1 on your telephone keypad If you like to withdraw a question press star 2 One moment please for your first question Your first question comes from Kevin Garigam from Jefferies Please go ahead Yeah, hey, Charlie and Nick, congrats on the great results, and Charlie, great working with you, and I hope you enjoy retirement.

20:05

Kevin CassidyAnalyst

Hey, can you talk more about the expanded partnership with Arm with Cycuity? Should we think about it as a licensing deal and then get royalties, and did that displace a competing solution, or was this a greenfield opportunity?

20:26

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

So it is a greenfield opportunity. There isn't actually a whole lot of commercial solutions for what Secuity does. Essentially, what Arm is using it for is to identify potential weaknesses in the high-end and mid-range CPU designs, right? And basically, they are essentially taking a leadership position about making the designs they deliver to their customers essentially have significant amount of hardware security assurance. So it's a greenfield opportunity. There's opportunities for expansion. And, you know, we think that other processor-type companies should be taking the lead of ARM in deploying cybersecurity hardware assurance solutions.

And I would also like to thank ARM today to allow us to announce it, because security has a significant number of very impressive customers, but people tend to be secretive about security, so ARM was very nice to let us announce it.

21:39

Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

Hey, Kevin, this is Nick. I just want to chip in. You said that Charlie was retiring. I know that was a slip of the tongue, and you know that it's actually me who's retiring, but I just want everybody else who might be listening to this call to know that Charlie's not retiring. It's Nick.

22:00

Kevin CassidyAnalyst

Yeah, I apologize for that. It's been a long week so far. My fault.

22:06

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

And then, so I guess, you know, just kind of going off that, does the addition of Sycuity allow you to negotiate a higher royalty rate with customers? No. So, Sycuity, at least so far, has been a non-royalty-bearing sort of software EDA-type model. You know, in the future, there are opportunities between the network on chip and security to actually not only identify weaknesses, cybersecurity weaknesses, but also to fix them. So there might be some opportunities there, but right now it's a non-royalty-bearing product.

22:52

Kevin CassidyAnalyst

Okay, perfect. Thanks, guys, and Nick, and enjoy your retirement.

22:57

Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

Thank you, Kevin. It's been a delight working with you for the last several years.

23:05

Your next question comes from Josh Bacalter from TD Cowan. Please go ahead.

23:12

Josh BuchalterAnalyst, TD Cowan

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions, and let me echo the congrats to Nick on retirement and say thank you for all the work over the years, and also, Charlie, thank you for staying with us. Maybe to start, you called out the U. S. design house win on an ASIC platform, I think using for chiplets and multi-die offerings. Can you elaborate on, is this a new customer, and maybe speak to what type of applications and maybe timeline to materiality for this revenue contribution? Thank you.

23:43

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

It's not a new customer, but it was a very small customer, a relatively small customer prior to this. But essentially, the hyperscalers are employing a number of different business models. They buy commercial chips from Intel and maybe ARM in the future. They are building accelerators themselves, and they're also working with partners to build chips to their specification. And this, you know, a large semiconductor company, one of their, you know, strong business product lines is that they build chips for hyperscalers, and they have, after an extensive evaluation, decided to use Arteris for fulfilling those designs.

24:33

Josh BuchalterAnalyst, TD Cowan

Thanks for that, Charlie. Beta center hyperscaler application. Got it. Okay.

24:39

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

Thank you for that, Charlie. And then maybe to follow up, I thought the Lee Auto announcement was interesting as well, especially given it's an in-house autonomous driving chip. Any way you can size this opportunity and maybe how big China Auto is overall within your royalty portfolio, how big it can be over the next couple of years? Thank you.

25:00

Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

I think I'll defer to Nick on the royalty question, but we have a strong presence in the China automotive market and also with China automotive OEMs, and so Li Auto is just one of the opportunities that we are pursuing or have pursued, and this has been underway for a while, and they are starting to ship. their system in a car, in actually real-world cars. But as far as the royalty percentage in China, Nick, do you want to take that one?

25:40

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

Sure, absolutely, Charlie.

25:40

Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

Hi, Josh. So, yeah, so Li Auto is a midsize Chinese EV company, so their volumes can be meaningful, And they are growing. So we're delighted that they have started to send checks so rapidly. This is a feature of the Chinese automotive market. As far as how far it can go, the jury's out on that. We'll have to wait and see. But typically, if you go back to any automotive royalty stream that we've seen in the past, typically you see a ramp over the first three years. Not necessarily totally even, but there is a ramp over the first three years, and then it plateaus for a large number of years.

You'll know that, for example, the Chinese automotive market has swung very heavily towards EVs as part of their electrification strategy as a country. So this is something that we're watching very carefully, and I'm sure my successor, Sarah, will be keeping a close watching eye on that.

26:51

Josh BuchalterAnalyst, TD Cowan

Thank you both. Welcome.

26:55

Your next question comes from Martin Yang from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

27:03

Martin YangAnalyst, Oppenheimer

Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. And first, Nick, hope you have a very satisfying retirement. It's been a pleasure working with you through different companies over the years. My first question is on the OPEX.

27:05

Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

So the change in the annual guidance relating to profitability, is the bulk of that change related to the payroll tax increase? Is there any additional OPEX increase? Yeah, Martin, so yeah, you're absolutely right. The majority of that decrease in NGI guidance, the $2 million decrease, is, as you rightly say, that is the French employer payroll taxes on RSU vesting. I mean, we had a, maybe we should have seen this coming, but we didn't. We had a very large spike in the stock price during the June quarter. And it's a tax that's levied based on the prevailing price at the date of vesting, and so completely exogenous to us outside of our control. There are a couple of other things.

We have had, as you saw, a lot of success, and we're guiding up on the revenue front. Some of that, a good portion of that is coming from security, and a lot of that is coming from government work. And government work, as you know, carries a much lower gross margin than traditional organic work or even the commercial business that Sancuity has.

So those are the two big levers that have led us to that. There is also an element of this which is, again, a victim of our own success because our deal flow is so strong. And this also affected the second quarter. Our sales commissions and FAE commissions are significantly higher than we thought when we had that lower guide on revenue.

29:14

Martin YangAnalyst, Oppenheimer

Thanks, Nick. Next question regarding royalty and cadence of royalty. This quarter, royalty has a very slight dip. So, can you maybe give us an outlook on how the royalty revenue would trend into the second half or into 20 cents? Thanks.

29:32

Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

Yeah yeah great observation Martin So I would characterize it more that the upward trajectory is slightly slower than in a sequential quarter based than it was last quarter and indeed the quarter before There are a couple of things to bear in mind for that. One is that royalties do go through slight ups and downs. We remember we saw a down in the March quarter of 2024 when Mobileye, I think it was 24, somebody correct me if I got that wrong, but it was the March quarter when Mobileye had a, they had an overstuffed channel and they had to reduce their inventory levels in the channel, and so they shipped significantly less in the March quarter and then also in the June quarter.

So these things can happen. There was one of our customers, I obviously can't mention who, but who had some logistical and supply chain issues, and that held back one quarter's worth of shipments. But that's come back on stream, so it's a pause. The growth rate, I mean, if you look at the last 12 months, over the prior year last 12 months at June 30, that's still up 67%. And that is still, even with that little dip, that is still well above our long-term CAGR that we've socialized with the street.

You did ask about 27 as well. I'm sorry, I didn't. Right, a longer term trajectory. So this is another great question. And so our long-term guide on royalties, CAGR, growth rate annual, is high 30s to low 40s percent. That's what we've said in the past. Now, clearly, we are traveling at a faster rate than that today. We are, as Emma just mentioned, we're 67 percent up on a trending 12-month basis. Now, I don't want you to assume that that rate can carry on ad infinitum. So I'm sticking at the moment. Now, Saurab, when he joins, he may come to a different view, but right now I think it's safe to stick with the high 30s to low 40s percent CAGR, and we can revisit that.

If we see this level of robustness and royalties and success, then we can revisit that in the coming quarters.

32:37

Martin YangAnalyst, Oppenheimer

Thank you. I appreciate the call.

32:40

Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

Of course.

32:41

Your next question comes from Suji De Silva from Roth Capital. Please go ahead.

32:48

Suji DesilvaAnalyst, Roth Capital

Hi, Charlie. Hi, Nick.

32:48

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

Congrats on the results here, and Nick, best of luck with the transition, certainly. Absolutely. On the deal activity, very strong in the quarter, maybe you can talk about the areas that you're seeing the strongest growth outside of your core auto and AI data center, just to understand where some of these areas might be inflicting earlier. Yeah, I mean, it's been a pretty broadly distributed sort of growth and deal flow. The data center has sort of taken the lead, I would say, because there's a lot of investment in data center. And we think that some of that is going to perhaps change a little bit, but I think AI is going to be everywhere.

And as the cost of AI come down a bit, people are just going to need more and more chips. So we think that whatever happens with the data center investment is not going to have a major effect on us. But we're also seeing strong action in microcontrollers, automotive. We have some embedded FPGA business. The space business continues reasonably well, so we're pretty happy. And I think we've announced on the earnings is that for the first half, for the first time for six months, no one was more than 10% of our license revenue in the first half of 2026. So we're well distributed, I think.

34:24

Nick HawkinsChief Financial Officer

Can I just add a couple of things to that, Sujin? Thanks for your kind words. We will no doubt stay in touch. But the two other areas that are of interesting note in terms of strong deal flow, one was Saccurity. Saccurity had a very solid quarter, and there are some consequences to that. You probably saw it as a $2.2 million gap OPEX charge that went through in the quarter because we had a more robust view in terms of the likelihood of them hitting their full earn-out target, which is obviously good news. And secondly, we're seeing some very interesting strength in some of the memory players, and that is obviously ultimately data center related, but it has been some solid deal flow from them.

35:25

Suji DesilvaAnalyst, Roth Capital

Very interesting. And then my other question is on the, you know, you talked about data center AI generally and an ASIC customer in particular.

35:25

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

Maybe, Charlie, you can talk about where those customers were hitting a breaking point where they cut over to you guys and what they were using in the past. Was it an in-house solution? Just understand the cutover and maybe the reasons for it. Thanks. So the hyperscalers are a specific type of customer. Their goal is not to make everything in-house. So our observation is that they keep buying from Intel, they keep buying from AMD, they keep buying some for the new ARM chips. But they're also building, they understand the workloads that they're dealing with through the data center better than anyone else. And sometimes they're reluctant to even share the information about how those workloads behave and what those specifications are.

So they're doing a lot of that workload acceleration ASIC work in-house, and sometimes they outsource that to large companies, who unfortunately the one that we got a fairly large deal in the quarter wants to remain confidential. So they're doing a combination of buying commercial chips, making stuff in-house, and also going to design partners, or usually large design partners. And they, I think, are going to keep on doing that. So there's no goal on their side to go one way or the other. They just want to maintain a balance between those three approaches.

37:11

Suji DesilvaAnalyst, Roth Capital

Okay, thanks, Charlie. Thanks, Nick.

37:18

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, press star 1 on your telephone keypad.

37:26

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Rosenblatt

Your next question comes from Maddie DePaola from Rosenblatt. Please go ahead. Hey, guys. Calling on behalf of Kevin Cassidy. Thanks for taking my question.

37:38

Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

How do you expect physical AI products' production cycle to compare to data center and automotive life cycles for driving royalty revenue? Yeah. So, to us, the physical AI chips look very much like automotive, because you need functional safety, and you need security, because when mechanized systems interact with human beings, those scenarios have to be handled, right? So the functional safety and now the cybersecurity assurance capability we have are going to play very well in the physical AI space. But the design cycles we think will be significantly faster in robotics than they will in automotive. But because you have functional safety and security involved, those design cycles will be slower than you see in data center, where basically in a data center, people come up with a workload, and that workload may be worth a billion or two in revenue, and they want to chip extremely fast.

So you're going to have the fastest cycles be the data center workload accelerators, the physical AI will be somewhere in the middle, and the automotive will be among the longest design cycles.

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Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Rosenblatt

Okay, thank you.

39:11

And there are no further questions at this time.

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Charlie JanacChief Executive Officer

I will turn the call back over to Charlie for closing remarks. Well, thank you for joining us on our call today. We really appreciate your interest in Arteris. We're very excited about our business, and we look forward to meeting and updating you on our business progress in the course ahead. So thank you very much.

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Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Thank you.

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