Apogee Enterprises (APOG) Q2 2027 earnings call transcript

Transcript, summary, guidance, and what analysts pressed on from the Apogee Enterprises, Inc. call on October 6, 2026.

Held
October 6, 2026
Length
24 min
Tone
Confident0.72
Analysts
2
Words
3,010
Fiscal 2027 net sales guidance
$1.46 billion to $1.5 billionraised
Fiscal 2027 adjusted EPS
$3 to $3.40raised
CalWall first 12-month revenue
approximately $85 millionon track
CalWall first 12-month margin
15% adjusted EBITDA marginon track
GrowGlass first 12-month revenue
approximately $30 million
GrowGlass first 12-month margin
25% adjusted EBITDA margin
Fiscal 2027 capital expenditures
$35 million to $40 million
Fiscal 2027 tax rate
approximately 26%adjusted effective

Summary

Management framed the raised outlook as validation of pricing, productivity and acquisition execution despite persistently soft glass markets.

  • Glass improved through execution, order rates and cost control, not better market conditions.
  • Pricing actions, productivity and Fortify Phase II savings supported metals; management said some pricing may have pulled volume forward.
  • CalWall remains on plan, while GrowGlass adds higher-value technology and European exposure.

Guidance

  • $1.46B$1.46 billion to $1.5 billion fiscal 2027 net sales
  • $3$3 to $3.40 fiscal 2027 adjusted diluted EPS
  • $15MApproximately $15 million fiscal 2027 interest expense
  • 26%Approximately 26% fiscal 2027 adjusted effective tax rate
  • $35M$35 million to $40 million fiscal 2027 capital expenditures
  • Relatively balanced net sales and adjusted diluted EPS across fiscal Q3 and Q4

What analysts pressed on

  • 01Glass recovery: management credited execution, increased order rates and cost control, while saying market conditions had not changed.
  • 02Metals pricing: aluminum costs are built into overall pricing rather than surcharges; management did not quantify structural increases versus surcharges.
  • 03Pricing and input costs: pricing has been implemented for several quarters to recover margins, balanced with productivity and cost reductions.
  • 04Capital allocation: management expects leverage to decline with cash generation if no acquisition closes, but gave no timing or target.
  • 05M&A pipeline: management said the funnel remains full but would pursue deals selectively at the right price.

Notable disclosures

  • Glass organic performance improved despite management saying soft demand, fewer jobs and project delays persisted.
  • Management said metals pricing actions may have pulled some volume forward.
  • CalWall and GrowGlass are expected to add meaningful revenue growth, but only modest adjusted EPS impact in fiscal 2027.
  • Management reiterated CalWall is on track for its first 12-month financial targets.

Risks raised

  • Glass markets remain soft, with fewer jobs, lower volumes and project delays.
  • Lower volume in metals and glass offset pricing and productivity benefits.
  • Higher material, manufacturing and freight costs pressured margins.
  • Metals pricing actions may have pulled volume forward, creating potential subsequent-period softness.

Tone: Confident 0.72

Tone was positive on first-half execution, acquisitions and raised guidance, tempered by persistent soft glass demand and mixed market conditions.

Who spoke

Company

  • Jeremy SteppenInvestor Relations
  • Donald NolanChief Executive Officer and President
  • Mark AugdahlChief Financial Officer

Analysts

  • Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Sidotian Company
  • Julio RomeroAnalyst, Sidotian Company

Full transcript

Analyst questions are marked with a bar. Timestamps are into the recording.

Prepared remarks

00:00

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to APOGEE ENTERPRISES' second quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I will now turn the conference over to Jeremy Steppen, Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications, to begin. Jeremy, please go ahead.

00:39

Jeremy SteppenInvestor Relations

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to APOGEE ENTERPRISES' Fiscal 2027 Second Quarter Earnings Call. On the call today are Don Nolan, APOGEE's Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Ogdahl, our Chief Financial Officer. During this call, the team will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Definitions of these measures and a reconciliation to the nearest GAAP measures are provided in the earnings release and slide deck, which are available in the investor relations section of our website. As a reminder, today's call will contain forward-looking statements. These reflect management's expectations based on currently available information. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed today.

More information about factors that could affect APOGEE's business and financial results can be found in our press release and in the company's SEC filings. With that, I'll turn the call over to Don.

01:35

Donald NolanChief Executive Officer and President

Thanks, Jeremy, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. I'm pleased to report strong second quarter results that exceeded our expectations and continued the momentum we established in the first quarter. Revenue was $391 million, up more than 9%, and adjusted EPS was $1.17, reflecting disciplined execution across the business. We benefited from swift pricing actions, productivity improvements, and the favorable contribution from our recent acquisition of CalWall. Based on our stronger than expected first half performance, we are raising our fiscal 2027 outlook for both net sales and adjusted diluted earnings per share.

Across our segments, we continue to make meaningful progress on pricing disciplines, productivity, and operating improvements, demonstrating our ability to execute effectively despite evolving macroeconomic conditions. We are advancing our strategic priorities through the acquisitions of CalWall and GrowGlass, expanding our differentiated product offerings and technical capabilities, while increasing our exposure to attractive end markets. We are also building on the successful integration of UW Solutions and the first-year performance as APOGEE delivered on our deal model targets. This proven execution strengthens our confidence in successfully integrating these businesses and achieving their first-year financial objectives.

In metals, revenue and profitability improved year-over-year as pricing actions, productivity initiatives, and Fortify2 cost savings continued to gain traction. We also continued to enhance operational execution through improvements in quality, on-time delivery, and customer engagement. Services delivered their 10th consecutive quarter of top-line growth while increasing their backlog again this fiscal year. Strong award activity resulting in continued backlog expansion demonstrates our ability to consistently win new business and support our confidence in the segment's long-term growth potential. Performance services delivered another strong quarter of revenue growth, reflecting continued demand for our differentiated products and reflects positively on our strategic initiative to acquire businesses that have a greater growth profile.

As material inflation increased, we maintained pricing discipline and realized the benefits of pricing actions implemented earlier this year. We will continue to actively manage pricing to preserve margins and offset inflationary pressures.

In our legacy glass business, while market conditions remain challenging, we made meaningful progress during the quarter against the action plan we outlined previously. We have advanced several commercial initiatives aimed at increasing demand, implemented productivity improvements across our operations, and remained disciplined on costs. While we still have work to do and the broader market remains pressured, we are encouraged by the progress achieved to date and believe the actions underway are helping position the business for improved performance and stronger profitability over time.

Across the company, we are seeing the benefits of the actions we've taken over the last year reflected in our results. While market conditions remain mixed, our focus on pricing, productivity, operational execution, and disciplined cost management continues to strengthen the business and supports our confidence in the increased outlook we announced today.

In September, we announced our second acquisition of the fiscal year as we continue to execute our growth strategy while maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation. With GrowGlass, we are adding a highly differentiated business with leading technology, strong customer relationships, and compelling growth opportunities. The acquisition supports our strategy of investing in higher-value products and capabilities that improve the quality and durability of our portfolio, and we are excited about the opportunities ahead as we welcome the GrowGlass team to APOGEE. As part of performance services GrowGlass will expand our technical capabilities and further increase our exposure to attractive higher value in markets This will strengthen our presence in Europe while supporting broader global opportunities We believe the business will enhance our profitability profile and accelerate value creation over time As we begin integrating GrowGlass, our focus will be on disciplined execution and delivering the strategic and financial benefits that supported our investment thesis.

Turning to CalWall, I continue to be pleased with our progress following the acquisition. As discussed last quarter, our focus has been on preserving the strengths that made CalWall successful while thoughtfully integrating the business into APOGEE. Integration activities across finance, human resources, sales and marketing, and other key functions are progressing as planned, and collaboration between CalWAL and APOGEE teams has been very strong. Importantly, our confidence in the strategic and financial rationale remains high. CalWAL continues to perform in line with our expectations, and we remain on track to achieve the first 12-month financial targets. We continue to see the opportunities to leverage CalWAL's differentiated, day-leading solutions and specification-driven business model, while expanding relationships with architects, designers, and glazing contractors across the broader APOGEE portfolio.

Overall, I'm encouraged by the progress we're making across the organization. Strong execution, continued advancement of our strategic priorities, and disciplined capital allocation are strengthening APOGEE's growth and profitability profile and positioning us well to create long-term shareholder value.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Mark to provide additional detail on our financial results and outlook.

07:51

Mark AugdahlChief Financial Officer

Thanks, Don, and good morning, everyone. Let me begin with a review of our second quarter performance and then discuss our updated outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2027, which reflects our strong first half performance and confidence in the business. Beginning with our consolidated results, net sales increased 9.2% to $391.1 million. The improvement was primarily driven by inorganic growth from the CalWall acquisition, favorable price across most segments, and positive mix. This was partially offset by lower volume in metals and glass as challenging market conditions persisted during the quarter.

Adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 12.7% from 12.4% a year ago, driven by favorable price, productivity improvements, Fortify Phase II cost savings, and the accretive impact of the CalWall acquisition. Those were partially offset by higher material and manufacturing costs and the impacts from lower volume. Adjusted diluted EPS improved over 19% to $1.17, exceeding our own expectations and reflecting improved operating performance across the business, along with lower interest expense.

Turning to our segment results, metals net sales increased 1.8% to approximately $144 million, largely due to favorable price partially offset by lower volume. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded to 15.4%, driven by favorable price, increased productivity, cost savings from Fortify Phase II, and favorable mix. Partially offsetting these benefits were higher aluminum costs and lower volume.

The services segment delivered its 10th consecutive quarter of net sales growth, improving by almost 8%, primarily driven by volume. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 5.8% due to project mix and higher volume. Backlog ended the quarter at $833 million, up 5% year-over-year and 13% sequentially, reflecting continued success with project awards in a highly competitive environment. Glass net sales increased over 21% to $87.4 million, primarily driven by a $16.4 million contribution from the Calwell acquisition and favorable mix. That was partially offset by lower volume and price as end market demand softness persisted. Adjusted EBITDA margin declined to 14.9%, but greatly improved sequentially from 8.7% in the first quarter. The year-over-year change was due to lower price, higher manufacturing and freight costs, and lower volume, partially offset by the accretive contribution of the CalWall acquisition and favorable mix.

As Don mentioned, we are pleased with the progress of the CalWall integration, and the business continues to perform in line with our acquisition expectations. We remain on track to deliver the first 12-month financial targets of approximately $85 million in revenue and a 15% adjusted EBITDA margin.

Turning to performance surfaces the segment delivered another strong quarter with net sales increasing by over 14 to approximately million driven by higher volume and favorable price Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 22 due to higher material costs partially offset by price and higher volume Looking at cash flow in the balance sheet. Year-to-date net cash provided by operating activities was $43.3 million, compared to $37.3 million a year ago. In the second quarter, we repurchased $6.4 million of stock and returned $5.5 million to shareholders through dividends. Our balance sheet at the end of the quarter was strong, with consolidated leverage ratio of 1.7 times, no near-term debt maturities, and significant capital available for the GrowGlass acquisition and other future deployments.

Before turning to the outlook, I'd like to briefly comment on our recent acquisition of GrowGlass. We are excited about the opportunities this acquisition creates for APOGEE, adding highly differentiated technology, broadening our reach into attractive end markets, and further expanding the capabilities of our performance surfaces segment. Based on our current expectations, we anticipate approximately $30 million in revenue and a 25% adjusted EBITDA margin in the first 12 months.

We believe GrowGlass is a highly complementary addition that will enhance our long-term growth and profitability profile of both performance surfaces and APOGEE as a whole.

Turning to our outlook, we are raising our fiscal 2027 net sales in adjusted diluted EPS guidance. These revised expectations reflect our strong first-half performance, continued execution across the business, the anticipated contributions from CalWall and GrowGlass, and current market conditions. We now expect net sales between $1.46 billion and $1.5 billion, and adjust a diluted EPS in the range of $3 to $3.40. CalWall and GrowGlass are expected to contribute meaningful to revenue growth. While their impact on adjusted diluted EPS is expected to be modest in fiscal 2027, we anticipate both businesses will further strengthen APOGEE's strong cash flow generation profile this year and beyond. Additionally, we now expect interest expense of approximately $15 million, an adjusted effective tax rate of approximately 26%, with capital expenditures between $35 million and $40 million.

Looking ahead to the second half, we expect both net sales and adjusted diluted EPS to be relatively balanced across the third and fourth quarters.

Overall, we are pleased with our first-half performance and the progress we continue to make across the business. The momentum we have built, together with the continued execution of our strategic priorities, reinforces our confidence in the increased fiscal 2027 outlook we are providing today. We will now open the call to questions. Operator, please go ahead.

Questions and answers

15:36

Thank you. As I manage to ask a question, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, simply press star 1-1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question coming from the line of Julio Romero with Sidotian Company. Your line is now open.

16:03

Julio RomeroAnalyst, Sidotian Company

Great, thanks. Hey, good morning, Don, Mark, and Jeremy.

16:05

Donald NolanChief Executive Officer and President

Good morning.

16:07

Mark AugdahlChief Financial Officer

Good morning. To start maybe on the glass segment, it held up a little bit better than we expected. The organic sales declined to a much lesser degree than the previous two quarters. Can you speak to how that segment is performing?

Some of that related to the new segment president that I believe was installed a couple of months ago. How much is related to improving mix or any other segment initiatives there?

16:33

Donald NolanChief Executive Officer and President

Yeah, sure. Yes. The conditions haven't changed, quite frankly, in the marketplace. We continue to see soft conditions out there.

There's fewer jobs at lower volumes to chase, and we're also seeing some delay in projects, but I would attribute this to significantly improved execution.

At the end of Q1, we talked a little bit about an action plan that we put in place. Well, as a result of that, we are seeing increased order rates, enhanced operational productivity, and certainly strengthened cost management. And all of those contributed to the improved performance in the segment. I mean, don't get me wrong. We have some work to do yet, but I'm making progress. I'm happy with that progress.

Excellent. Very helpful there. And on the metal segment, can you help us think about the split between structural price increases and the surcharges you've implemented to date? And then how much of the – or does the updated adjusted guidance range embed any give back as some of those surcharges unwind?

17:40

Mark AugdahlChief Financial Officer

Who will we all start off? So first of all within the metal segment the impact of surcharges is probably a little bit less What we typically do from a pricing perspective is as aluminum prices go up we build those actually into our pricing structure not our surcharges So it is built into the overall price.

I would tell you that metals performed well in the quarter. We were really pleased with their operational performance. And then if you kind of look at it from a year-over-year perspective, certainly the impact of Project Fortify 2 has had a significant impact on its overall cost structure.

18:25

Donald NolanChief Executive Officer and President

Yeah, I mean, just to emphasize, Julio, look, I'm very happy with the pricing actions that they took, contributed significantly to the quarter. Productivity improvement, though, was also a big part of the story. And, you know, as Mark mentioned, Fortify 2, you know, cost actions. The other thing we think we had as a result of the pricing actions, we think we pulled ahead some of the volume. So, you know, that's also a contributor.

Great. That's helpful there. And then, you know, last one for me before I pass it on is, you know, just thinking about where you are in the leverage here. A little bit above, I think, your historical, your one and a half times target, and you've been active with the portfolio here. You've repurchased some shares, I believe $16 million year-to-date. Just help us think about how you rank capital allocation priorities, and does the M&A pipeline remain active here?

You had a couple of points there, Julio. I'll start off. First and foremost, we feel really confident about where we're at from a leverage perspective. I don't think there's any issues there yet. We might be a little bit higher, but obviously that came with a couple of acquisitions in the quarter. We're confident in the amount of cash that we're going to be able to derive over the remainder of the year. So to the extent that we don't identify another acquisition, we feel like that's going to be coming down throughout the remainder of the year. To the M&A point, our pipeline remains active, and we believe there's still a very full funnel to do any kind of acquisition, but obviously we're going to be very selective at this point.

And if the right acquisition comes around at the right price, we'll have to consider executing on that. But as of right now, we're really focused on delivering our results and delivering that cash flow.

Excellent. I'll turn it over. Thanks very much. Thank you.

20:35

Our next question coming from the lineup, Ghoshy Sri with Singular Research Elon is now open.

20:42

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Singular Research

Yeah, hi. Can you hear me? Yes, hi, Ghoshy. Morning. Hi. Hi.

20:50

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

This is Gareth Anthony for Ghoshy. I'm just trying to understand the margin here. Are you seeing the margins recover as you increase prices or as input costs get passed through or are customers pushing back?

21:24

Mark AugdahlChief Financial Officer

Goshi, would you mind repeating the question? Maybe we didn't, I'm not sure we caught the whole thing.

21:32

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

All right. I was just trying to understand the price increases that you've taken in services segment. So are you seeing sort of margins recover as you pass on the input costs, or are the customers pushing back?

21:53

Mark AugdahlChief Financial Officer

Yeah, so we have been implementing pricing now for a couple quarters, and I would say doing what we needed to do in order to recover margins. So, you know, it's a balance, though. You know, we mentioned in metals, for instance, it's a combination of productivity, cost out, and pricing in between the three, using that to drive margin recovery.

But it's not operation. Understood. I got it. No, thank you. Okay.

22:42

Thank you. And I'm showing over to questions in the queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Don Nolan for any closing comments.

22:52

Donald NolanChief Executive Officer and President

Thank you, everybody. In closing, I continue to be encouraged by the progress we are making across the business. Our strong first-half performance reflects the dedication of our employees, whose commitment to our customers and operational excellence drives our success every day. We're delivering strong results in the current environment while continuing to strengthen our business through disciplined capital allocation and strategic investments. The progress we've made this year, including the acquisitions of CalWall and GrowGlass, and the continued execution of our strategic priorities, reinforces our confidence in the path ahead and our ability to create sustainable, long-term value for shareholders. Thank you for your continued interest and support.

23:38

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