Iron Mountain (IRM) Q4 2025 earnings call transcript

Thanks, Chloe. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our 4th Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference call. Joining us today are Bill Meaning for President and Chief Executive Officer, and Barry Heitman, for Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

After our prepared remarks, we will open the lines with Q&A. Today's call will include forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties.

For a discussion of the major risk factors that could cause our actual results that differ from these statements, please refer to today's earnings materials, including the Safe Harbor language on slide two of the earnings presentation, and our annual and quarterly reports on Form 10K and 10Q.

Each of these items, as well as the reconciliations of non-gap financial measures referenced during this call can be found on our Investor Relations website.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Bill.

Thank you, Mark, and thank you all for joining us today to discuss our 4th Quarter and full year results. We are pleased to report another record performance in the 4th Quarter above our expectations, delivering all-time highs in 17% year-over-year growth for revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and AFFO. Organic revenue increased 14% in the quarter, driven by broad-based strengths and record results across our business segments.

The very strong performance concluded an exceptional year for Iron Mountain in 2025, marking our 5th consecutive year of record results in double-digit growth. For the full year, revenue increased 12% to $6.9 billion. Adjusted EBITDA, grew 15% to $2.6 billion, and AFFO increased 15% to $1.5 billion. These outstanding results reflect our team's steadfast commitment to delivering innovative solutions for our customers and the strong returns we are generating from our growth investments across the business.

Let me share some of the highlights from this record year in the momentum this provides underwriting our expectations to sustain industry-leading revenue and earnings growth into 2026 and beyond. We continue to capitalize on robust data center industry demand. Data center revenue increased 30% in 2025, including 39% in the 4th quarter. We expect the data center market will remain very strong in the coming years. As hyperscalers build out inference and cloud capacity, with 43 megawatts leased in the fourth quarter, we enter 2026 with strong momentum in leasing and have great assets in prime markets.

Our confidence in sustaining strong data center growth is supported by our current backlog, which we expect to drive more than 25% revenue growth in 2026. And on top of this, we expect another year of 20% plus growth in 2027. Moreover, we anticipate a year we will release over 100 megawatts in 2026 further adding to our backlog. This confidence is driven by the conversations we are having with our customers around our land bank, which includes 400 megawatts of available capacity that is expected to energize over the next 24 months. Half of which is expected to energize in the next 18 months.

And we are driving substantial growth in our asset lifecycle management business. ALM revenue increased 63% in total in 2025, including 40% on an organic basis. And we ended the year on a high note with 56% organic growth in the fourth quarter driven in part by higher component remarketing revenue. In 2025, we increased the number of Fortune 1000 customers utilizing our ALM services to 360.

This is up from 270 in the prior year, and importantly, we have significant room to grow within these existing customers. Looking ahead, we are focused on capitalizing on the large opportunities in the ALM market, and we expect this to be a multi-billion dollar business for iron mountain in the future. Furthermore, we are off to a strong start in 2026, benefiting from recent commercial wins, increased customer penetration, and higher component remarketing revenue.

And our digital solutions business continues to build momentum. We achieved an all-time high for digital revenue in 2025, eclipsing $500 million driven by another year of double-digit growth. We are seeing solid demand for traditional projects in our winning new contracts across industry verticals for DXP, our AI-powered digital solutions platform. The number of DXP deals secured in the fourth quarter was an all-time high, and we're at an average deal value more than double the prior year.

The outlook is equally as promising as the DXP pipeline continues to grow. In 2026, we expect to maintain strong digital growth supported by our new project wins in growth in our underlying recurring business, which is now more than 40 percent of our digital revenue.

Collectively, these three growth businesses of data center, ALM, and digital grew more than 30 percent in 2025 to nearly $2 billion in revenue. They accounted for two-thirds of our growth or 8 percentage points of growth on a consolidated basis.

This growth portfolio provides an important tailwind in supporting our plan for double-digit top and bottom-line growth well into the future, which will only build as the growth portfolio continues to become a larger mix of the overall enterprise.

I also want to highlight the strength and importance of our highly recurring legacy physical storage business. This high margin, nearly $5 billion of business, serves as a strong foundation for our mountain. It drives substantial cash flow and funds growth of investments across the business. It is also central to our cross-selling opportunity, as this is where we originally built our more than 240,000 customer relationships, including 950 of the thousand largest global companies. In 2025, the physical storage business achieved record revenue growing at a mid-single-digit rate, consistent with our long-term expectations.

This year's performance marked our 37th consecutive year of organic storage rental revenue growth. And looking ahead, we remain totally committed to growing this business through our innovation around how we help our customers get more value from the information we store on their behalf, as well as our revenue management strategy. This continues to prove a winning strategy by yielding consistent volume growth coupled with an increase in our value ad driven by our approach to this important service line.

We have great confidence in delivering on this in 2026, and we have already set into motion many of our key initiatives.

In addition to our growth achievements, we also executed very well operationally. We drove expanded profitability across the business with adjusted EBITDA increasing 15% in margin, improving 90 basis points at the enterprise level as compared to last year. So, as you can see, I am very proud of our team's performance in 2025, and we are entering 2026, our 75th anniversary with incredibly strong momentum.

And yet, despite all of our recent success, what is even more compelling is that we are still in the early phases of our longer term growth journey. We are just still scratching the surface of the $170 billion total addressable market for our services. We look forward to 2026 being another record year for Iron Mountain, and this is our guidance outlook.

Now, let me share some recent commercial wins that illustrate the strength of our synergistic business model and support our conviction in sustaining double-digit revenue growth. First, in records management, in North America, we secured a significant multi-year extension with a leading global healthcare provider operating more than 2,000 locations. We will pick up an additional 550,000 cubic feet of records as well as deliver a comprehensive suite of information governance solutions.

Our longstanding relationship, improvement track record, global footprint, deep compliance expertise, and ability to deliver meaningful value to the customer were key factors in securing the steel. In Europe, we secured a multi-year agreement with a major UK government department to provide records management solutions. Iron Mountain was selected based on the strength of our established relationship, proven reliability, deep understanding of regulatory requirements, and ability to drive measurable operational efficiency for the customer. I would also like to highlight a very important win in our media and archival services business.

A leading global media and entertainment company and partner of ours for more than 15 years engaged us to securely store and preserve more than 1,600 high-value media assets across multiple geographies. Iron Mountain's unmatched global reach, technical expertise, and proven track record in managing complex media archives were key advantages in winning this large and competitively bid deal.

In our digital solutions business, a leading Asia financial services company with more than 1,000 locations selected Iron Mountain to support its digital modernization efforts through a multi-year agreement building on an existing 10-year records management relationship. This transformative software-only deal launches in four key markets with plans to expand across 16 additional markets, replacing the customer's legacy enterprise data management platform with DXP.

The solution incorporates DXP's AI capabilities to extract metadata from over 500 million images and digital files to improve the quality and accuracy of the customer's database, as well as provide secure digital storage in advanced backup services.

Our leading AI technology that allows our customers to treat unstructured data in a structured manner, robust security standards, deep regulatory expertise, and ability to deliver a scalable solution aligned with the customer's strategic priorities. These were instrumental in securing this award and displacing incumbent providers.

And as it relates to our work with the Department of Treasury, we continue to execute under this new agreement. We expect 2026 will be a ramp-up year. We have already established ourselves as the leading partner to the treasury for these services. As the Department manages through complexity of this significant project, we have included $45 million of revenue related to this program in our 2026 outlook.

Now let me turn to our data center business. Our strong partnerships with many of the largest hyperscalers drove new leasing in the fourth quarter, and they remain actively interested in all of our key data center developments. At our Northern Virginia campus, we won a 15-year contract for 28 megawatts of capacity from a major hyperscaler supporting the continued expansion of its cloud platform.

In addition, as we discussed in November, an existing hyperscaled customer at least our entire 36 megawatt Chicago site is part of a 10-year contract transferring and expanding the customer's previous lease in London. Also this quarter, another major hyperscaler, at least two megawatts in our Phoenix campus, as well as 600 kilowatts in our Madrid campus.

Turning to our asset lifecycle management business, in the U. S. , a large financial institution selected our mountain to provide secure IT asset disposition services for end-of-life network equipment and telephones across over 2,000 branch locations. The deal represents a cross-sell building on our long-standing partnership for records management and digital solutions, our established track record of providing customer value along with our reputation for security, compliance, and ability to operate at scale across the U. S. , where important factors in winning this business.

Successful cross-selling was also key to winning a deal with a Fortune 100 healthcare technology company to manage the secure recovery, audit, and compliant disposition of more than 11,000 employee devices. Our unique capability to rapidly deploy comprehensive end-to-end ITAD logistics while mitigating operational risk and compliance exposure were determining factors in the customer's decision. We are optimistic that this newly expanded relationship will deliver significantly more opportunities in the future.

And a global IT infrastructure services provider has engaged Iron Mountains to support its data center decommissioning and asset remarketing initiatives for more than 30,000 deployed IT assets across North America. This multi-year deal builds on our established records management and digital solutions relationship. Our ability to deliver scalable, compliant, and cost-effective solutions with a key differentiator in displacing incumbent providers.

In conclusion, I want to thank my fellow Mountaineers across the world for their continued dedication in serving our customers. Our Mountaineers' best-in-class stewardship of our more than 240,000 customers continues to be a key factor in our success. As you heard today, we are delivering exceptional results, have incredibly strong momentum across the business, and remain in the early phases of executing against our tremendous long-term growth opportunity.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Barry.

Thanks, Bill, and thank you all for joining us to discuss our results. As you've heard this morning, we delivered exceptional performance across the business in 2025 and enter 2026 with strong momentum. In terms of the fourth quarter, we achieved record quarterly results across all key financial metrics. Revenue of $1.84 billion was up $262 million a year on year. This was well ahead of the projection we provided on our last call, driven by strength across our business, and particularly in our ALM business.

As compared last year, revenue increased 17% on a reported basis, 15% on a constant currency basis, and 14% on an organic growth basis in the quarter. Total storage revenue was $1.06 billion up $119 million for 13% year on year. Total service revenue was $782 million up $143 million for 22% from last year.

With the strong services growth, gross margin in the quarter was modestly down from last year, entirely the result of mix. As we have talked about before, our services revenue has lower growth margin, and services increased in penetration by 200 basis points as compared to last year. I will also note that our services growth margin expanded over 100 basis points a year over year and was up 350 basis points from the third quarter. This is an excellent accomplishment and resulted from strong execution by our operations team. And from an expense perspective, we achieved great operating leverage delivering our lowest SG&A expense ratio in many, many years.

Adjusted EBITDA of $705 million expanded $100 million for 17% year on year. This was $15 million ahead of the projection we provided on our last call, driven by higher revenue and operational efficiency across the business. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 38.3%, which is the highest level we have ever reported for this metric so far. And as you will see in our guidance, we are projecting further EBITDA margin expansion in 2026.

AFFO was $430 million up $62 million. This represented an increase of 17% as compared to last year. And AFFO on a per share basis was $1.44 up 16% to last year and was $0.05 ahead of the projection we gave on our last call.

Now let me summarize briefly the full year, which marked our fifth consecutive year of record results across all key financial metrics. Stepping back when compared to our initial outlook for the year, we exceeded the high end of the year respectively. Revenue of $6.9 billion increased 12% on both a reported and concurrency basis. Adjusted EBITDA increased 15% year on year to $2.57 billion, an increase of $338 million.

AFFO increased over 15% to $1.54 billion or $5.17 on a per share basis. Now, turning to segment performance. In our global rim business, in the fourth quarter, we achieved record quarterly revenue of $1.37 billion and increase of $115 million. Reported growth was 9%, including organic growth of 7% year on year. Storage revenue growth increased 7% on a reported basis and up 5% on an organic basis. We were very pleased with our core physical performance, which as you know includes our box and consumer storage businesses.

It was up 8% year on year and up quarter over quarter. Now I will call out that you will see that our total rim storage revenue was down very slightly from the third quarter. This was attributable to two items. The US dollar was stronger quarter over quarter and secondly we recognized lower data management revenue following a particularly strong performance in third quarter.

Global rim service revenue grew 12% with organic growth of 10% in the quarter. This strong growth was driven primarily by our digital business and core records management services.

Earning to the treasury contract that Bill mentioned, we recognized $6 million of revenue in the fourth quarter, modestly ahead of the expectation we shared on our last earnings call. For 2026, we are using a conservative outlook as we are in the first year of this multi-year contract and have included $45 million of revenue in our guidance. Looking out to 2027 and beyond, we expect to generate in excess of $100 million in revenue annually.

The global rim adjusted EBITDA increased $43 million to $622 million yielding an adjusted EBITDA margin of 45.3%. Turning to our global data center business, we achieved revenue of $237 million in the fourth quarter and increases $67 million or 39% year on year driven by lease commencements and positive pricing trends. In the fourth quarter, we signed 43 megawatts of new leases, immense 41 megawatts of leases and we renewed 176 leases totaling 4 megawatts.

Pricing remains strong with renewal pricing spreads of 9 and 12% on a cash and gap basis respectively. Fourth quarter data center adjusted EBITDA was $122 million, up $34 million year on year resulting in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 51.5%. For 2026, we expect more than $1 billion in data center revenue, which represents an increase of more than 25% year on year.

Together with Segment EBITDA margin up year on year in every quarter, turning to asset lifecycle management, total ALM revenue was $190 million in increase of $78 million or 70% year over year. This exceeded the projection we provided on our last call by $30 million driven equally by hyperscale and enterprise businesses. On an organic basis, our teen grew revenue $64 million or 56% growth.

This was achieved through broad strength across the ALM business. Within enterprise, we continue to win new logos and increase penetration with our existing customers. Our recent acquisitions of Premier Surplus and ACT logistics are performing well, contributing $14 million in revenue in the quarter. And from a profitability perspective, we are pleased with the team's execution in driving continued improvement, expanding margins.

For 2026, we expect $850 million in ALM revenue, which represents about 35% year on year growth together with expanding margins. Turning to capital allocation, we remain focused on growing our dividend and investing in high-return opportunities that drive double-digit growth while maintaining our strong balance sheet.

Our Board of Directors declared our quarterly dividend of 86.4 cents per share to be paid in early April. Now, as a reminder, this is 10% higher than the comparable quarterly dividend last year. Our commitment is to continue growing our dividend, building on four consecutive years of increases, while we maintain a target payout ratio in the low 60s as a percentage of AFFO per share.

In terms of capital investments, we invested $525 million of growth apex and $43 million of recurring capex in the fourth quarter. For 2026, we are planning for capital expenditure to be slightly down from last year, with $2.0 billion in growth capital and $150 million in recurring capex. Now, as investors know, our data center strategy is focused on pre-leasing before commencing meaningful construction.

Turning to the balance sheet, with strong EBITDA performance, we ended the quarter with net lease adjusted leverage of 4.9 times, slightly better than our expectation. This represents our lowest leverage level achieved since prior to the company's read conversion in 2014.

For 2026, we expect to end the year at similar levels to year in 2025. And now, turning to our outlook for the full year 2026. As you've heard from us today, we are very pleased with the momentum we've built in the business and have line of sight to another year of double-digit growth. For 2026, we expect total revenue to be within the range of 7.625 to $7.775 billion, which represents year on year growth of 12% at the midpoint. On an organic, constant currency basis, this represents growth of 10%. We expect adjusted EBITDA to be within the range of $2.875 billion to $2.925 billion, which represents year on year growth of 13% at the midpoint.

We expect AFFO to be within the range of $1.705 billion to $1.735 billion, which represents year on year growth of 12% at the midpoint. And we expect AFFO for share to be $5.69 to $5.79. This represents year on year growth of 11% at the midpoint. I want to provide a couple of points for modeling. We expect FX to be a benefit to full-year revenue by approximately $75 million.

And last year's acquisition is to contribute revenue of approximately $45 million. And turning to the first border, we expect revenue of approximately $1.855 billion, an increase of 16% to last year. On an organic, constant currency basis, excluding FX and last year's acquisitions, this equates to 12% growth the last year. Adjusted EBITDA of approximately $685 million in an increase of 18% to last year. We expect AFFO approximately $415 million in an increase of 19% to last year.

And AFFO for share of approximately $1.39 in an increase of 19% to last year. Before concluding, I would like to provide an update as compared to our long-term targets. As you will remember, in late 2022, we set 2026 financial targets for revenue in EBITDA of $7.3 billion and $2.5 billion respectively.

On like-for-like FX rates used to establish these targets, our 2026 guidance for revenue and adjusted EBITDA is approximately $8.1 billion in $3.0 billion respectively. This represents five-year kegors in excess of 12% for revenue and 13% for EBITDA. With a large and highly fragmented market to address, together with only 5% of our customers currently buying from more than one of our business units, we expect to grow revenue at a double-digit rate for the foreseeable future.

I would like to express my thanks to our entire team for their focus and dedication to serving our customers and their commitment to Iron Mountain. And with that operator, would you please open the line for Q&A? Thank you.

Good morning, Eric, and thanks for the question. First of all, we feel like we're going really into the year with very strong momentum based on the over 40 megawatts at least and we did in the fourth quarter. You can imagine leasing 40 megawatts in the fourth quarter if you're having a number of conversations about a number of sites with your key customers.

The sites are not surprising to you. If you look at the 400 megawatts that we have energizing over the next two years, the sites that are attracting a lot of interest are continued northern Virginia because we still have some capacity that will be coming online there. Richmond, which we have over 225 megawatts of capacity coming online before the end of 27.

Madrid, obviously, is a hot market in Europe. Our London campus, which we did that swap where a customer wanted to swap out of London for going in and taking all of Chicago, the London, we put that back on the market. Of course, that's very attractive both to hyperscalers but also the retail market in London is extremely strong and obviously has very high yields. We have a number of conversations both around retail and wholesale there and then India.

The Indian market is getting more and more momentum. We have a lot of capacity coming online again there in the next two years. Across the board, the conversations really started picking up in fourth quarter, which you could see in the leasing activity we did in the fourth quarter. We feel really good. The fact that we have 400 megawatts being energized in the next 24 months. We see a lot of the folks that were focused on large language models in the last year are now going back to making sure they have enough capacity for their cloud build out in inference.

Thanks to the question, Toby. Let me start off in terms of the conversations we're having with the customers and the cross-selling capability. Then Barry can give you a little bit more color in terms of how that's showing up in the financials. If you noticed in the Fortune 1000, effectively the 950, is we're really pleased with the number of logos that we added this year. It's over 20 percent increase in the number of logos. The thing that's important, well-excessed over 300 of our largest customers that are now buying our services.

Even those were just scratching the surface.

If you think about it, we're really growing the business amongst the largest, most complex, most regulated companies in the world in two dimensions. One is we're now building and displacing their previous suppliers in many cases. Then there's more growth just within those customers. Then, of course, we continue to build momentum in the customers that we're not serving, that we already are serving in other business lives. The momentum in the growth, both in terms of expanding and existing customers, but as well as adding new logos is continuing to build.

Toby, I'll just add that, first of all, we feel great about ALM business. We're operating in a very large fragmented market and we're clearly driving growth.

I'll say if you look at this year, the 850 million of revenue that we just guided to, that includes just about $20 million of inorganic.

If you work through math, you'd find that our enterprise business, we're forecasting to be upwards of 20 percent organic growth. The balance being in our high personal business where, as we talked about before, that tends to be more of a project-based business. Of course, as I mentioned in some of the remarks in December at an investor conference, pricing in that part of the market has been beneficial. We're using current market trends as it relates to the dynamics of hyperscale decommissioning in this forecast.

I would say there's a tremendous amount of opportunity for us in ALM, both in hyperscale and enterprise. We appreciate the question. Thank you.

George, I'll take that one. If you recall in December, I was speaking at an investor conference. I mentioned that memory pricing in particular, and I think that's what you're specifically speaking about because that's where the industry has seen some pricing trends. That pricing in memory was running 15 plus million ahead of what we had provided for our fourth quarter guidance at that point in the middle of December. We did a little bit better than that. Probably 15 to $20 million versus our original guide for the fourth quarter on pricing related to memory.

As you know, hyperscale represents generally about 40 percent of our ALM business. It was a little bit higher than that in the fourth quarter. But for the full year, it was at 40 percent. And memory tends to be between 40 and 50 percent of the revenue. And that, you know, we're kind of at the higher end of that kind of percentage in light of where pricing has been. I'll tell you, pricing has continued to be strong here in the early part of the year. And we're doing with our current forecast is we're assuming that kind of continue.

We're kind of continuing to use current market conditions that relate to pricing and volume going forward. The other thing I'll give you is that in total, you heard us right, 57 plus percent organic growth in the quarter. Our enterprise business was very strong as well. So it was very balanced mix across the business. The outperformance, as I mentioned, the prepareter, Mark George was equally split between hyperscale and enterprise. So we're feeling quite good about where we are.

Okay, Ben. Thanks for that one. So as I talked about before, our total gross margin is naturally affected by mix, right? Because our storage business is a higher gross margin as investors know and our services margin is more services oriented in that way. And so the important thing to note about our services gross margin in the quarter is it was up over 100 base points and on a potential basis of 350.

And the thing I'll point out there then is that our services margins are improving across the company. And so our services margins within global rim improved year on year meaningfully. They improved meaningfully within ALM and from on a, you know, data center doesn't have a level of value. And so our view is that our teams are executing quite well.

And that's a function of both strong execution, operating leverage and a little bit of pricing on the services lines as well. And we think that that trend can continue with respect to our services gross margin. The other thing I'll note is while our gross margin on storage, I mentioned the prepared remarks was down slightly. That was all due to mix because even within the global rim business, the storage gross margin was up year on year.

And so what's happening there is, as I've talked about before, as data center becomes a larger and larger portion of our business, it's got a slightly diluted gross margin to our storage average. But of course, it's got a very accretive even to market to our company. So, you know, we were very pleased with the margin performance across the company, both within storage and service. Thanks, Deb.

Thanks. I'll start, John. Thanks for the question and Barry may want to add something. But the, I think, first of all, let me, let me deal with on the data center side. And I think you and I've talked about this before is we don't really see ourselves active in the M&A market for data center. Now, you know, we have done some, we did the IO data center. We did the EVOS in the U. S. who did EVOS, which in Europe, and we did the WebWorks acquisition in India. But you can, but all those were brownfield, black hole, brownfield acquisitions.

And it was when we were in the early days entering those geographies and it was really buying a platform. And platform, not just in terms of an asset with capacity to lease, but also a team that understood those markets. So I wouldn't expect us to be a big acquirer or M&A in the data center assets. We feel pretty good about the teams that we have. We feel pretty good about the platforms. We have those geographies.

And, you know, with 400 megawatts coming ready to be energized over the next 24 months, we feel really good about being able to grow that business on a purely organic basis. On the ALM side, in this area, we're also asked Barry to comment further, is we continue to see that as an attractive market. You know, we're already in 40 markets. Some of those markets we actually use partners, which is a way of actually understanding the opportunity to do further acquisitions to build out our footprint in those markets. But we operate in 61 countries, right? And our customers, you know, one of the big differentiators when we're winning new business from, you know, new, I would say, adding an existing logo, the ALM services to that logo.

Like I commented on the 90 additional customers we picked up this year and the Fortune 1000 is one of the things is our global footprint. So you can imagine that we want to be able to service our customers in all 61 countries around the globe. And a big part of that is, you know, our M&A engine. But Barry, you may want to comment further.

Yeah. So John, I would say first and foremost, I just want to underscore the business has grown on an organic basis tremendously. And we've got a long runway there as we continue to penetrate our client base. And as we land at clients, when new logos expand considerably. So that's a long-term friend that I think is very much a tailwind to growth in the company.

On M&A in particular, just to supplement some of Bill's comments, I'll just note our corporate development team and our ALM teams are consistently and kind of constantly looking at opportunities as one of the largest players, if not the undisputed largest player really in the space. We generally get a chance to see kind of any asset that's out there that might have a willingness to sell.

As we talked about before, we don't tend to predict when we might make a next acquisition in light of just the dynamics of how M&A works, but I'll reiterate that in this market, we kind of see mid to high single digits as a multiple of EBITDA and with our ability to synergize those down, that quickly gets to the low five times. And so it's a very positive way for us to continue to grow and supplement the organic growth that the team is delivering.

Thanks, John.

Okay, sure thing, Andrew. Thank you for that. So on restructuring charges, let me be very clear about this. We won't have any matter horn restructuring. We have no restructuring charges in our plan at all. So from a, just as a reminder, our matter horn plan for restructuring ended last year. And so that generates a considerable amount of incremental cash flow for investment slash less debt required to do our funding plans. Andrew, and it's, I think, a key point in our business is going to generate operating cash flow between, let's say, one and a half and two billion dollars.

And we'd feel really good about where we're positioned. As it relates to CAPEX, of the estimate I gave, you know, call it the 2.2, it is 150 or so of recurring. And the balance is obviously growth with the vast majority of that upwards of in excess of, you know, in the vicinity of 1.8 of that will be data center specifically, if not more.

And when I mentioned that it'd be slightly down and I also alluded to the fact that we're very focused on creasing, I'll just note that the situation is such that we provided for in our guidance for our ability to commence construction on assets in excess of the level of what we're pre what our guidance is. And what I specifically mean by that is, I would imagine we would not necessarily spend to this level unless we were actually preleasing more than we just projected. You know, we said we do at least 100, if not more megawatts.

And so we're very focused on releasing it just to reiterate that. And this allocation for capital deployment more than accommodates that level. And then as it relates to any other tidbits, the other thing I would give you on cash flow is for AFFO purposes from a cash interest standpoint. I'd be planning for somewhere in the vicinity of like 905 million for the full year and that's just sort of the mechanics of taking the fourth quarter run rate. We had 207 million on that line, annualizing that and then adding some incremental for borrowings in the fourth quarter as well as borrowings across the year. And you pretty much get right to that number and then cash taxes, I am assuming that will be up some, you know, let's call it up about you probably in the vicinity of 20 million year on year that may be conservative.

But in light of the really phenomenal growth we're seeing in services, particularly in ALM, I thought it was prudent to plan for a little bit more so in both of those cases.

They're at a point where it works into our AFFO guidance such that, you know, I feel very confident in the way we guided for AFFO Andrew. Thank you.

I think Barry, you mentioned that there was impact from lower data management revenue and maybe some consumer storage effects. Can you just kind of unpack that a little bit more and maybe tell us what is factored into your expectation for 2026.

Okay, so I'll start with the first part. So that wasn't a factor in the quarter. What was the factor in the quarter on a sequential basis was, first of all, the dollar was stronger. So that cut into our growth rate. You know, if you look at third quarter versus fourth quarter data management, though, another point. And I know, you know, you cover us closely. And for others, I'll just point out in our 10 Ks and our 10 Qs, we have a table that shows our, you know, records and information management business. It shows our data management information. It shows ALM, et cetera. And so for those who are tracking it at a detailed level, you, they would have noticed that in the third quarter.

We had a particularly strong, common data management when that business tends to be fairly steady, but it can oscillate quarter to quarter sum. And you've seen that over the many quarters of disclosure that we have out there on data management. So when you look at our total growth results, which is what you're looking at when you're asking that question, it's the combination of the physical business, the box consumer business, as well as data management. So why do I tell you all that? Well, I think most times when investors are talking to me about our, you know, physical business, they're talking about our traditional box business and how that's going. And that business is very healthy.

I mean, it was up 8% in total. Our total physical business was up 8% year on year was up in excess of about 1% sequential basis, despite the effects. And volumes have continued to be trend very well. So as it relates to what we're forecasting for the business, we are expecting it to be up in that same mid single digit rate that we've expected for some time. A couple other tidbits for you, all of the revenue management actions that we anticipated taking are now fully in the marketplace of sometimes that, as you know, moves around month to month, year on year.

So everything we got all of those actions essentially in in January. So that'll, from a timing perspective, that'll help the first quarter a little bit because it's a little bit earlier than last year's revenue management. That'll play out over the first half as it relates to year on year. And we, since people often ask me, I'll just say we are very much expecting another year of modest growth in terms of organic physical volume. Thank you.

So is there anything you can know on that for us in 2026? Thank you. Good morning, Nate. So I'll start with the Department of Treasury.

And Barry, you may chime in if you want to add more more color. So we expect this year for it to be about at least $45 million as the Department of Treasury starts ramping up because you can imagine is they're there in a process of outsourcing from doing everything in-house to outsourcing. The one thing is we feel really good about that number and that number will build. And as Barry said, we expect it to next year be around $100 million, which would be more kind of consistent with the annual run rate that we would expect from that contract and the feedback we're getting from the Department of Treasury. We're getting very, very positive feedback on our ability to execute on their behalf.

We already have a FedRAMP certification on moderate, but we're also in the final approval for FedRAMP high and we're the only vendor that's at that stage in terms of FedRAMP certification. Just so you know, FedRAMP certification is an important certification when you're providing services to the federal government in terms of your SaaS platform. So this is based on our insight SaaS platform, which is a part of our DXP platform. So we feel really good both in terms of our technology, clearing these important hurdles to serve the federal government, as well as the feedback we're getting from the customer.

And, you know, as we always expect it is 2026 will be a bit of wrap as they're as they're beginning their outsourcing curve because it is, you know, these things they don't generally just flick a switch. It takes a little bit of time to move people across. Nate, I'll add just a couple of points on Treasury and then come to your other question.

I think we positioned ourselves in a very prudent way as it relates to this contract in our guidance in a fourth quarter. We delivered about $6 million a revenue in the first quarter. I would expect that to ramp up some and then from a half standpoint, I would expect the 45 to kind of be generally split kind of evenly.

Now, I'll tell you that that is purely the 45 level is purely being conservative and prudent based on the things that Bill was just speaking to in terms of the ramp up and how they outsourced. We fully expect the business to be generating in excess of $100 million in 2027 and beyond, and it may be, you know, well beyond a hundred as we continue to demonstrate our capabilities to the government. So we're, we're feeling quite good about the contract and I'll just know we continue to work with the federal area federal agencies about additional opportunities to support government efficiency. So we feel very good about what we're doing in with our digital solutions and I'll just add on to your second question.

From a, from an SGA standpoint, first thing I point out is in our guidance, you should see that at the midpoint where we're forecasting for 40 basis points of additional even demargent expansion.

That will be benefited by SGA leverage and our teams here across the company and across businesses are working to continue to transform the business. And we are adopting some AI tools to improve efficiency to get more operating leverage. And frankly, I think we're just in a very early stages of that. So there is a multi year opportunity to drive SGA leverage and operating leverage across the company. And I look forward to reporting that to you over the next few years.