Medpace Holdings (MEDP) Q2 2026 earnings call transcript

Transcript, summary, guidance, and what analysts pressed on from the Medpace Holdings, Inc. call on July 23, 2026.

Held
July 23, 2026
Length
50 min
Tone
Confident0.70
Analysts
8
Words
6,757
Q2 net new awards
$795.7 million28.2% year-over-year growth
Q2 net book-to-build
$1.13
Q2 backlog conversion
24.1%of beginning backlog
Next-12-month backlog conversion
$1.96 billionprojected
FY2026 revenue guidance
$2.805 billion to $2.885 billiongrowth of 10.9% to 14%
FY2026 EBITDA guidance
$618 million to $642 milliongrowth of 10.8% to 15.1%
Q3-Q4 direct service costs
41 to 42 percent of revenuereimbursable component
FY2026 employee growth
high single-digit

Summary

Management framed Q2 as a constructive environment, with lower cancellations lifting net bookings and oncology replacing cardiometabolic as the leading bookings mix.

  • Oncology exceeded half of Q2 bookings and award notifications as cardiometabolic awards fell from a year ago.
  • Second-half gross bookings are expected to ramp, while cancellations remain an unpredictable offset.
  • Management expects backlog conversion to ease over time but offered no specific trajectory.

Guidance

  • 10.9%FY2026 revenue $2.805B-$2.885B, growth of 10.9%-14%
  • 10.8%FY2026 EBITDA $618M-$642M, growth of 10.8%-15.1%
  • $494MFY2026 net income $494M-$514M
  • 19%FY2026 effective tax rate 19%-19.5%
  • $21.1MFY2026 interest income $21.1M
  • 41%Q3-Q4 direct service costs 41%-42% of revenue
  • FY2026 employee growth high single-digit

What analysts pressed on

  • 01Metabolic concentration: management said top-five customer growth was substantially driven by large cardiometabolic programs, now easing as oncology leads bookings.
  • 02Backlog conversion: management attributed elevated conversion to several factors, including gating and portfolio age, and expects it to decline over time without quantifying when or how much.
  • 03Cancellations: management said Q2 cancellations fell across backlog and pre-backlog, but declined to forecast future levels because they are unpredictable.
  • 04Bookings outlook: management expects gross bookings to ramp in the second half, with net bookings dependent on cancellations.
  • 05Competition and pricing: management reported stable competitive dynamics and no notable market change.
  • 06Funding and decision timing: management cited broader biotech funding and improving opportunities but declined to quantify when funding translates into awards.

Notable disclosures

  • Oncology represented over half of Q2 bookings and award notifications, while cardiometabolic award notifications had dropped considerably.
  • Backlog recognition is gated at interim decision points; continuation decisions can add work to backlog and influence revenue as soon as the following quarter.
  • Pre-backlog is larger than backlog and has grown faster over the past year, but management declined to quantify its size.
  • Management said win-rate initiatives implemented in late 2025 may have contributed to Q1 strength but declined to describe them.

Risks raised

  • Future cancellations remain difficult to predict, and a spike could offset expected second-half gross-bookings growth.
  • Backlog conversion of 24.1% is high relative to historical levels and may decline as portfolio age and booking characteristics change.
  • Reimbursable costs ran higher than expected in the first half and may remain near the high end of guidance.
  • Some biotech clients remain financially challenged despite broader recent funding and stronger opportunities.

Tone: Confident 0.70

Management described stronger opportunities, lower Q2 cancellations and expected second-half booking growth, while emphasizing unpredictable cancellations and elevated conversion.

Who spoke

Company

  • August TroendleChief Executive Officer
  • Kevin BradyChief Financial Officer and Treasurer
  • David RuheInvestor Relations

Analysts

  • Charles RhyeeAnalyst, TD Cowen
  • Michael ChernyAnalyst, Leerink Partners
  • Anne HynesAnalyst, Mizuho
  • JalendrissingAnalyst, Truist Securities
  • David WindleyAnalyst, Jefferies
  • JakeAnalyst, Barclays
  • Justin BowersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank
  • Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, William Blair

Full transcript

Analyst questions are marked with a bar. Timestamps are into the recording.

Prepared remarks

00:00

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Medpace second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 11 on your phone. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, simply press star 11 again. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference call, David Rue, Medpace's Director of Investor Relations. You may begin.

00:39

David RuheInvestor Relations

Good morning, and thank you for joining Medpace's second quarter, 2026 earnings conference call. Also on the call today is our CEO, August Trundle, and our CFO, Kevin Brady. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our remarks and responses to your questions during this teleconference may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Security Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements involve inherent assumptions with known and unknown risks and uncertainties, as well as other important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. These factors are discussed in our Form 10-K and other filings with the SEC.

Please note that we assume no obligation to update forward-looking statements even if estimates change. Accordingly, you should not rely on any of today's forward-looking statements as representing our views as of any date after today. During this call, we will also be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP measures are not superior to or a replacement for the comparable GAAP measures, but we believe these measures help investors gain a more complete understanding of results. A reconciliation of such non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in the earnings press release and earnings call presentation slides provided in connection with today's call. The slides are available in the investor relations section of our website at investor.

medpace. com. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to August Trundle.

02:20

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Good day, everyone. The business environment was strong in Q2 2026. Cancellations were well behaved and supported a record quarter for net bookings. RFPs were up sequentially and year-over-year, generating high-quality opportunities.

Initial award notifications remained solid, although they declined sequentially from a very strong Q1. Overall, the environment remains constructive into July, and we are making good progress in positioning the business for 2027. Kevin will now review our financial results from Q2.

03:05

Kevin BradyChief Financial Officer and Treasurer

Thank you, and good morning to everyone listening in. Revenue was $707.3 million in the second quarter of 2026. This represented a year-over-year increase of 17.2%. Revenue for the six months ended June 30, 2026 was $1.41 billion and increased 21.7%. EBITDA of $153.4 million increased 17.6% compared to $130.5 million in the second quarter of 2025. Year-to-date EBITDA was $302.8 million and increased 21.5% from the comparable prior year period. EBITDA margin for the second quarter was 21.7% compared to 21.6% in the prior year period. Year-to-date EBITDA margin of 21.4% was flat compared to the prior year period as the impact of higher reimbursable costs was offset primarily by lower employee-related costs. In the second quarter of 2026, net income of $121.4 million increased 34.5%, compared to net income of $90.3 million in the second quarter of 2025.

Net income growth above EBITDA growth was primarily driven by a lower effective tax rate and higher interest income compared to the prior year period. Year-to-date net income was $245.2 million compared to $204.9 million in the comparable prior year period, which represents a 19.7% increase.

Net income per diluted share for the quarter was $4.25 compared to $3.10 in the prior year period. Year-to-date net income per diluted share was $8.53, compared to net income per diluted share of $6.79 in the comparable prior year period.

Net new business awards entering backlog in the second quarter increased 28.2% from the prior year to $795.7 million, resulting in a $1.13 net book to build. Ending backlog as of June 30, 2026 was approximately $3 billion, an increase of 4.9% from the prior year.

We project that approximately $1.96 billion of backlog will convert to revenue in the next 12 months. Backlog conversion in the second quarter was 24.1% of beginning backlog. Regarding customer concentration, our top five and top ten customers represent roughly 31% and 40%, respectively, of our last 12 months' revenue.

In the second quarter, we generated $162 million in cash flow from operating activities, and our net day sales outstanding was negative 59.6 days. During the second quarter, we repurchased approximately 706,000 shares for $294.7 million. As of June 30, 2026, we had $527 million remaining under our share repurchase authorization program. Cash ended the quarter at $502.7 million. Moving now to our updated guidance for 2026. Full-year 2026 total revenue is now expected in the range of $2.805 billion to $2.885 billion, representing growth of 10.9% to 14% over 2025 total revenue of $2.53 billion. Our 2026 EBITDA is now expected in the range of $618 million to $642 million, representing growths of 10.8% to 15.1%, compared to EBITDA of $557.7 million in 2025.

We forecast 2026 net income in the range of $494 million to $514 million. This guidance assumes a full year 2026 effective tax rate of 19% to 19.5%, interest income of $21.1 million, and 28% of the year. I will turn the call back over to the operator so we can take your questions.

Questions and answers

08:18

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your screen. If you have any questions, please press star 11 on your screen. Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your screen. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question comes from Charles Rhee of TD Cowan. Your line is open.

08:59

Charles RhyeeAnalyst, TD Cowen

Oh, yeah, thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to ask, you know, obviously a lot of the growth that we've seen over the last year has been really driven by metabolic mix, and at the same time it looks like our concentration of top customers, particularly the top five, has increased. Can you give us a sense on, you know, are the two related in such that, you know, maybe a lot of the metabolic work you're doing is coming from a couple large clients, and can you give us a sense on sort of what visibility you have of that going forward? And I guess the question is, does the mix within your bookings and backlog look similar to what your current revenue mix?

Just trying to get a sense, you know, how long you could expect this kind of mix persists, and particularly on the metabolic side. Or, you know, does that kind of roll off at some point, and maybe any sense on timing, would that be?

09:56

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Sure. This is August. The top five growth has been driven quite a bit by that metabolically. So the answer to that is yes, there are some large programs among that top five that are a good part of that growth in the group. And as to, you know, timing of that, more recently, you know, this year, the last couple quarters, I think that oncology has come back quite a bit in terms of our, both our award notifications, so the earliest part of kind of the pipeline for awards, and the backlog recognition. So, you know, our bookings, particularly in this last quarter, we're very strong in oncology. Oncology represented over half of our overall bookings and our award notifications.

And metabolic, cardiometabolic has kind of dropped off quite a bit in terms of new award notifications. So I think we are seeing kind of a shift back towards the more historical averages. I don't know, we'll get back to where we were two years ago in terms of percent of, but I think oncology will retake its position, move up a few percent in our mix, et cetera. I would expect over the next year or so that to kind of, you know, head back toward that, you know, kind of prior mix. So, yes, the metabolic is kind of, you know, some of the very large programs are kind of, you know, reducing, and sort of the new opportunities are not as great as a year ago.

Great.

11:52

Charles RhyeeAnalyst, TD Cowen

And maybe just to follow up then, maybe, Kevin, just from a modeling perspective, And should we think back to maybe two years ago what the backlog conversion rate and I would assume backlog conversion rate would just fall out naturally because of the mix because the oncology trials are longer in duration?

12:08

Kevin BradyChief Financial Officer and Treasurer

Yeah, I mean, Charles, as you know, we don't guide to the burn rate. And so we've got to kind of see how, you know, those programs where we've been awarded the work from a notification standpoint, how those progress into awards the rest of this year. We have more color on what 2027 will look like possibly next quarter but certainly in the February call Yeah but I would challenge the very premise that the metabolic programs are driving the conversion rate up I don think that is necessarily the dynamic It might have had an influence but that is not the primary driver of you know the increased conversion rate Remember, we do block backlog greater than three years, and in fact, the average duration of backlog across programs is much lower based upon interim analyses or steps, you know, that we limit backlog recognition until we get certainty around that, and that is very prevalent among many of the non-metabolic programs in oncology.

So, you know, the fact that you think that metabolic has a faster burn rate, that can be true, but it's not overwhelmingly apparent. I don't think that's the biggest driver of, you know, that that's going to cause a normalization of our conversion.

13:37

Charles RhyeeAnalyst, TD Cowen

I'm sorry, can you just clarify then, August? Like, what is the change that allows other, like, my understanding of duration was the way backlog converts is length of trials and where recognition happens, but you're saying that with interim analysis, even in, let's say, an oncology trial, that, you know, triggers a revenue record. We might only have one year of backlog for that program. The program might be five years planned to go, but we only have one year of backlog in there because there is another stage looking at before they do the expansion, before there's some increase in the program, and we won't put any of the backlog beyond that point until we get to it and there's a favorable decision.

14:23

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

I see. Okay, that's really helpful. I appreciate the comments. Thank you. Thank you.

14:32

And our next question comes from Michael Cherney of Leering Partners. Your line is open.

14:39

Michael ChernyAnalyst, Leerink Partners

Good morning, and thank you for taking the question. You know, very nice job on the bookings. As you think about the mix that you saw, anything to call out relative to the stability of the bookings in terms of pricing, in terms of competition? And what are you seeing in terms of any potential changes, adjustments, fierceness in competition relative to the overall market health with your core biotech customers?

15:06

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, no, I don't think the market has changed. It's gotten stronger, you know, over the last few quarters. We had a pretty strong, and I would say pretty strong because I didn't want to say just unqualified, strong business environment in the prior quarter. But because there's cancellations, you know, still we continue to see clients that are, you know, we're looking for funding or having problems, etc. And, you know, high level cancellations. This quarter, this very last quarter, you know, Q2, cancellations came down quite a bit.

The business environment continued to be strong. New opportunities look good. And I don't really see competitive dynamics or anything. Like I said, the profiles moved more back towards oncology programs being the largest, in fact, majority of opportunities as opposed to metabolic drivers of a year or so ago. But otherwise, I think things are pretty stable.

16:19

Michael ChernyAnalyst, Leerink Partners

And just quickly on the cancellation side, I know you don't guide the cancellations, but I know they can be volatile for quarter to quarter, but do you feel going forward like cancellations should be at least in a better place versus what seemingly could have been an outlier in one quarter, in one queue?

16:35

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

I get cancellations are completely beyond my ability to even. It's not like we have any of these past, you know, past year have a situation where we had a very high risk programs and we thought, oh, you know, there could be cancellations. And, you know, sure enough, they were. We just have no idea. I mean, you know, there's not been that kind of insight into future cancellations, and I don't anticipate that there will be going forward. I mean, cancellations just come up. You know, like I said, we are very careful about gating our backlog by having any sort of interim look or, you know, analysis or, you know, thing that might, you know, regulatory decision that might influence the remainder of the program.

We won't put in backlog beyond that point. You know, we'll wait for that to happen. And so, you know, the cancellations that we have are completely unanticipated and, you know, out of the blue sky. So I can't say that. But what I can say is that the business environment is good. And our pipeline of stuff, including in the kind of pre-backlog that have been awarded programs, is very strong. And I would anticipate that our gross bookings, which we do have reasonable insight into, are going to scale in the next second half, are going to ramp up. And I think that independent of where cancellations are, that should be a scaling in our – a ramping up in our net bookings.

But I say that if cancellations are in any kind of reasonable range, but there's always possible cancellations spike to an unusual level.

18:40

Michael ChernyAnalyst, Leerink Partners

Yeah. Thank you.

18:42

And our next question comes from Anne Hines of Mizuho. Your line is open.

18:53

Anne HynesAnalyst, Mizuho

Great, thank you. I know your business, you do a little bit of Phase 1, but Phase 2 and 3, and there's been some increased investor concern that maybe Phase 2 is hitting a wall, maybe something's moving to China. I don't know if that's the case for you, just giving you a biotech mix, but maybe if you can just discuss gross bookings trends in Phase 1 versus Phase – I mean, I'm sorry, Phase 2 versus Phase 3, that would be great. Thank you.

19:24

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think if we look at kind of the numbers, maybe phase one has increased, you know, some relative to phase two. You know, phase three has been pretty stable, and of course that phase one is driven largely by oncology programs. And, you know, so I don't know that that's not just the kind of move towards, you know, very, you know, heavy oncology. I haven't tried to analyze that too greatly in terms of, you know, where that's going. But I don't really see a shift of things to China greatly for, you know, at least the programs we're, you know, chasing. So, you know, I don't know that I see that dynamic.

20:18

Anne HynesAnalyst, Mizuho

Great. And I know the past couple of quarters, I believe you said gross bookings was good, but maybe a little bit below your expectations. Was this quarter, was gross bookings actually in line or better than what you expected heading into the quarter?

20:36

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, you know, that kind of is set up. Gross bookings are going to be determined by, you know, pre-backlog cancellations, you know, from the past. We did have high cancellations, but we've had an improving business environment. As I said, the business environment is pretty good. It looks actually, I would say, very good, except that we keep having cancellations, and that is part of the business environment.

There has been still a number of clients that were challenged financially, so I don't know.

21:15

Anne HynesAnalyst, Mizuho

All right, thank you. Thank you.

21:24

And our next question comes from Jalendrissing of Truist Securities. Your line is open.

21:30

JalendrissingAnalyst, Truist Securities

Thank you, and thanks for taking my questions, and congrats on a good quarter. I want to go back to cancellation comment, August. I was wondering if you can put Q2 trends in some Is it fair to say that cancellations have improved back to levels seen in Q3 of last year, or even better or worse, just to confirm that? And also to confirm that cancellations have improved in both backlog and pre-backlog?

21:56

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I guess so. Cancellations were actually in a pretty good range this quarter. In fact, if you look at the net bookings, a bigger driver of the net bookings increase from last quarter was due to reduced cancellations rather than, you know, kind of gross bookings.

Okay, so you look at it that way. I think second half, we're going to see more just gross bookings, you know, ramping up quite a bit. So, you know, this quarter was helped along quite a bit by a substantial drop from what had been, you know, kind of elevated cancellation rate. So it's come down nicely, you know, not to unusually low level, but, you know, a very good level, let's say. And even in this quarter, cancellations and AIS were very well behaved also. So that also helps toward ramping in gross bookings going forward in the second half. So, you know, across the board, yes, cancellations were down. They were in a nice range. And we're more than half of the driver of, I would say, of the net bookings growth from the prior quarter from Q1.

23:10

JalendrissingAnalyst, Truist Securities

Okay. Is that the answer? Yeah, it helps. Thank you. And then my follow-up, last quarter you did call out implementing initiatives to improve win rates. Can you provide any update on that? Have you started to see the impact of those initiatives? And if any color they can put around, what are these initiatives related to commercial execution, positioning, quality? Just give us more color, like if that's having an impact on your wins here.

23:37

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I brought that up to say that we had recognized that our win rate last year, you know, largely was less than it had been in prior years. We were making some changes. We did make changes, in fact, around, you know, late last year. And, you know, maybe a little bit in the first quarter, but, you know, they were really done, you know, last year. And so they've been implemented and are in place. And I think we're a possible, you know, influence our very strong win rate in Q1.

And so I think that has come back. I don't want to go into the details. I just wanted to acknowledge, recognize that we hadn't won the same percentage of programs that we had historically in 2025, and we're implementing some changes, but I don't want to go into just how those competitive changes were rolling out.

24:35

JalendrissingAnalyst, Truist Securities

Got it. Thanks a lot. Thank you.

24:42

And our next question comes from Jared Haas of William Blair. Your line is open.

24:47

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, William Blair

Great thank you It Christine Rainson for Jared So while I realize the majority of the work that you booked today will not burn until at least 2027 given the volatility of recent hoping you can give some color on what you expecting for bookings growth cadence in the back half of the year And really if you expect 2Q net bookings to be a high watermark or if we could see sequential acceleration as we move throughout the year I'm sorry, you're a little bit faint there.

25:20

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

It sounds like you're asking about how the bookings are going to go in the second half towards 27 years. Yeah, no, I apologize.

25:29

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, William Blair

I'm just hoping to get some color on really if 2Q is expected to be the high watermark for bookings here, if we really could see an acceleration as we move throughout the year in terms of net bookings.

25:42

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

No, no, in response to the last few questions, I said that we expect a ramp in bookings. I expect a ramp in gross bookings. I would expect that to translate into a ramp in net bookings, but cancellations are always a wild card. But, you know, that was my commentary on second half.

26:02

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, William Blair

Perfect. Thank you. And then hoping you can give a little bit more color on RFPs in terms of magnitude of sequential and year-over-year growth and on bookings quality as well. And then a similar question on magnitude of initial awards declined sequentially and if this bucket was up year-over-year.

26:21

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, so RFPs were up meaningfully, certainly on a sequential basis. RFPs were up substantially. And the quality has been good and improved. We see a lot of clients that have had recent funding. I think the big thing is funding has been a lot broader rather than just a few companies getting quite a bit more money. It's quite a bit broader. We're seeing more opportunities with recent funding and moving forward with the program. So I think the business environment is in good shape, and I think the RFPs numbers have increased. I don't like paying a lot of attention to the numbers. They are up substantially year over year. They were up also, you know, sequentially by a reasonable amount.

But again, quality is more important, and I think the quality has been there and is good.

27:35

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, William Blair

What was your other question? Thank you. Oh, it was just on initial awards in terms of, they seemed strong, but declined sequentially in your commentary. So just curious, one, if this bucket was up on a year-over-year basis, and then just any commentary on the magnitude sequentially.

27:55

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, yeah, sorry. I don't have any other comments on it, really. We had a very strong Q1. We had a Q2 that they were down. They were on the lower side of kind of the, but not, you know, unusually low.

So, you know, I don't know what to say about that. You know, these are things that do bounce around. We look at it over a longer period of time because single large programs often drive the actual number there, whether you win or miss that, you know, one or two very large programs. So it's not like a metric that can be looked on on an individual quarter. But, you know, overall, you know, the overall new awards were in a good range because the business environment was very strong, and even though maybe there were some very large ones that we lost and made the actual percent fantastic, overall awards were good.

28:54

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, William Blair

Perfect. Very helpful. Thank you. Thank you.

28:55

And our next question comes from David Windley of Jefferies. Your line is open.

29:05

David WindleyAnalyst, Jefferies

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. August, I wanted to try to understand hearing you on the contingency backlog considerations that you had mentioned to me recently and mentioned again this morning and how influential they are. So I guess I'll spin the question to the backlog burn has ramped over a couple years, kind of making new highs. Sounds like you would not attribute that to the metabolic mix. To what do you attribute, I guess is my basic question. What are the various factors that contribute to that burn rate being as high as it is?

29:47

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Well, I think given the environment with the high cancellations that we were in, we did, I think we double looking at programs for decision points and what, you know, I think they may have not been as, you know, broadly implemented.

30:08

David WindleyAnalyst, Jefferies

David Pelleyer, Ph.

30:08

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

D. : There's a lot of gray area there in terms of what is a decision point. Is this look for power? Is that something that could influence their continuation of the program? There's a lot of different factors that could. And we were in a very high cancellation environment. We wanted to be, we didn't want large reductions in backlog, you know, hitting us. And so I think that was it. I think that just overall, you know, the awards that were slower, you know, did, you know, cause a change in the average profile for the program. And metabolic, I'm not denying that it has had some effect. I just don't think it is the overwhelming driver. If metabolic becomes less, because metabolic conversion isn't naturally a lot faster in our systems.

I think that it can be if there's a decision point. It's a very large program. I mean, you know, I'm not saying there couldn't be situations where metabolic might be a driver, but almost any other program also could be. So I just don't think that that is, oh, yeah, metabolic's much faster burning, and therefore that is the driver of our conversion rate. I don't think it has been.

31:39

David WindleyAnalyst, Jefferies

It sounds like you kind of went through a, you know, logically a backlog recheck as a result of what the environment was signaling to you.

31:53

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, and I don't want to say that we removed anything from backlog, because we didn't. We didn't, you know, take anything out of backlog. We just started looking at, should we put this into backlog when we have this decision point in a year from now that in the past you might have said, well, that's just an adjustment, and it isn't really an interim look for decision about continuing the trial.

32:18

David WindleyAnalyst, Jefferies

Do you have, on this point, do you have any meaningful amount of revenue where, say, a decision point or some factor would cause value to kind of be added to backlog and go right into revenue in the same quarter?

Like a decision point happens and that drops into revenue?

32:46

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yes, sure. That is kind of the profile of an interim analysis to decide whether to stop the trial. And if it continues, it might be that next quarter's revenue could be significant, could be influenced. Obviously, any one program is not going to be a big driver of a quarter, but it could be in that next quarter right away.

33:14

David WindleyAnalyst, Jefferies

Yeah. Last question for me. On the labor side, your headcount growth did tick up a little bit. I wondered how you would assess where you stand on resources relative to the demand that you're seeing, you know, matriculate toward bookings. And within that, has the composition of your labor changed geographically? You had in past years talked about beginning to do some offshoring or between full-time equivalents and contractors as you maybe try to manage costs. Thanks.

33:49

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think we're in a good place. That's been substantially helped by the low turnover that we've had, which has continued through Q2, very low turnover on historical terms. And we do expect high single-digit growth in employees this year, and I suspect we'll continue that next year. So, I think we're in a good space. Employee growth has been predominantly U. S. and then also Asia-Pac, and a chunk of that in India, which does kind of represent, you know, positioning for, you know, cost. But the biggest growth has been U. S. , and as I think I mentioned previously, a lot of things have kind of moved back towards U. S. in terms of growth.

But there has been some repositioning, too.

34:58

David WindleyAnalyst, Jefferies

Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

35:05

And our next question comes from Ryan Halstead of RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

35:11

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Morning, thanks for taking the questions. Just going back to the net new awards growth, my question is, are you able to quantify, I guess, or just size, you know, how much of the new awards growth came from converting your pre-backlog awards from last year into awards this year, and how much of it was from, you know, this improvement in the business environment? So kind of organic new awards this year.

35:46

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, so in Q2, most of the backlog recognition would have been from award notifications the prior year. So Q1 would not have influenced greatly the Q2 backlog awards.

36:09

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Okay. And then in terms of the improving business environment, where are you seeing that? Is that sort of in the pre-award backlog?

36:20

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yes, and then cancellations. And even Q4 was, I think things have improved quite a bit. It's cancellations that were driving sort of the backlog bookings decrease, and also we're very high in our pre-backlog, reducing our potential for future conversions. But that has, in Q2, was in a very good place.

36:55

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Okay. And then last one for me. You had previously guided to direct service costs at 41%, 42% of revenue, which I think implies a sequential decrease. Just curious if that continues to be the case, if you are expecting some declining direct service costs.

37:17

Kevin BradyChief Financial Officer and Treasurer

Yeah, and that commentary is related to the reimbursable component of direct cost, right? And that's what I do expect. There's some further decline in the back half of the year, and I would say a range of 41 to 42 percent of revenue, Q3, Q4 is kind of what we're modeling right now.

37:39

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Thanks for taking the questions.

37:41

Thank you And our next question comes from Luke Sergat of Barclays Your line is open Hey, this is Jake on for Luke.

37:51

JakeAnalyst, Barclays

Thanks for the question. So the last couple years, you saw a sequential step down in SG&A from 1Q to 2Q, and then this quarter it ticked up slightly. So I know you called out benefiting from lower employer-related costs through the last couple of quarters, but what are the puts and takes there going forward around the margin step up through the year? Thank you.

38:14

Kevin BradyChief Financial Officer and Treasurer

Yeah, I mean, really, it's a lot of the impact that we see from Q1 to Q2 or Q4 to Q1 is related to the annual merit cycles, depending on what happens with the company's equity programs that can influence it, both of which have already occurred this year. And so you'll kind of start to see more of an influence on headcount increases as we continue in the back half of the year, but at a slower pace than revenue. So you'll see a little bit of what you're saying and that margin expansion in the back half of this year.

38:55

JakeAnalyst, Barclays

Great. Thank you. Thank you.

39:03

And our next question comes from Eric Caldwell.

39:06

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

I just wanted to circle back first to David's questions and on the backlog burn rate. I think I get the gist of what you're saying. Just to be very clear, your long-term average backlog burn rate up until the beginning of 25 was about 18%. Now you're at 24%. You're saying metabolic was not the main driver. However, it sounds like you're saying the main driver was that you tightened the screws, I guess if you will, tightened the screws on your policies around what you put into backlog, so effectively changed SOPs on what went in there. And you were more restrictive on gating factors. I just want to clarify that that was, in fact, the main driver of this increase, you know, being 30, 35 percent above normal on backlog burn.

And if that was the case, is your expectation that backlog burn stays at 24% moving forward? Or now that the environment is improving, are you perhaps going to go back to a more traditional process in terms of where you, you know, gate or don't gate awards when they, you know, do or do not become bookings?

40:29

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks, Eric. Let me clarify. I don't think that metabolic is an overwhelming driver of the difference, and I'm not saying that metabolic programs might have been contributed, but I think a bigger part was the policy implementation really enhanced. It was the same policy that was written. We didn't change the SOP. It's just a matter of we were more maybe attuned to looking for those type of issues. And I don't think it's, it isn't a natural part of metabolic programs. I'm not saying there weren't, there wasn't maybe a metabolic program that also had a, you know, meaningful contribution to that because of the same issue was there, you know, of gating rather than faster burn.

I'm saying that metabolic programs are not faster burning driving our high conversion rate. And even to a large extent, they may, you know, they may to some extent, but I really think There's three components. Maybe metabolic is a little bit faster burning on average. We had the implementation of our policy, you know, up given the cancellations that were going on. And I think the overall dynamics of awards and size of backlog and AIS and all the rest of it, you know, cognitive dynamics in terms of the average age of programs. So I think there was a number of drivers of this, and I don't think that if metabolic goes to zero or doubles in our backlog, that that's going to have a big influence on our conversion rate.

So whether metabolic comes down or not, I don't think that is the driver of reducing conversion rate overwhelmingly. I don't think that's going to be a big change between 18 and 24. All that said, I would expect that our conversion rate does tend to drop down some over time as we have new awards and more programs and all the rest of it, hopefully get into a lower cancellation environment.

42:45

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Okay. And then on the pass-throughs, the last question, Kevin said 41%, 42% of mix in the second half. I think that is perhaps higher. Maybe Q1 and Q2 were a little higher than you were thinking. Is that a fair statement that they have run at a slightly faster clip this year than you were anticipating? Is that fair?

43:14

Kevin BradyChief Financial Officer and Treasurer

Yeah, that's fair. I did anticipate it coming down a little bit more in the first and second quarter. As I had mentioned in the second quarter, I thought it would be for the year. On the higher end, it pushed it to 42%. It might be just north of even that watermark.

43:33

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

And then the current generation of bookings, the $800 million here in Q2, any sense on what the profile of that looks like with pass-through mix? If you just took that bucket individually, I'm thinking that perhaps with mix shifting back towards oncology, the pass-through mix of that bucket, maybe the newer generation buckets of awards, could be lower. So we would see a reduction in pass-through mix in 27 if that were the case, but maybe that's not the right thought process.

44:12

Kevin BradyChief Financial Officer and Treasurer

Yeah, I mean, it certainly can be. I mean, I would say that the mix of programs going into backlog, is it significantly different on a percentage basis? Maybe it's a little bit lower, but I think what's more indicative of what happens in 2027 is just the programs that end up earning revenue and where they are in their life cycle. We've said before that studies that are later in their life cycle have a tendency to even burn a bit more reimbursable pastures. So it's just a combination of all the portfolio and how things are going to progress across that portfolio. It's not just what you're putting in the backlog.

44:57

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Gotcha. And then last one for me, I was hoping, sorry if I missed this, But did you provide an update on pre-backlog? Was it up, down, flat, quarter over quarter? I think last quarter you said it was around the size of backlog, but maybe you could provide some more color on where that stands exiting Q2.

45:21

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I don't want to get into, you know, doing that. It is larger than backlog, yes. It is growing. It has grown faster than backlog over the last year. But I don't want to get into, like, you know, percent and, you know, how much larger or what kind of stuff.

45:44

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Thank you. Thank you.

45:45

As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star 11. And our next question comes from Justin Bowers of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

45:59

Justin BowersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi, good morning. I have a few questions, but just wanted to continue with Eric's line of questioning and just clarify a couple things on the burn rate. So August, it sounds like your statement on the burn rate, excuse me, coming down in the future would be driven more by fewer cancellations.

And I guess that would mean, you know, greater booking showing up in the quarter versus a change in how you're running the business or study mix. Is that the takeaway that you want us to have?

46:39

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

I think the average age of projects and the booking characteristics, what was more recently put in the backlog, does have an influence on the conversion rate, and I think that will change over time. I think that would put pressure downward on the conversion rate. Again, I don't want to try to project the conversion rate. I don't know that it's going to come down. I don't know how fast it would come down if it did, but I just think that a lot of the increase over time has been related to the average age of projects and kind of the dynamics of what's coming in and off of backlog, and that I would expect the more, I would at least revert towards our historical norms.

You know, that is, you know, 24% is kind of, you know, high relative to historical values, and so I would think that that is going to come down, but I'm not making a statement on, you know, we've projected a decrease, you know, through any kind of, you know, formal analysis.

47:51

Justin BowersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, understood. And then just on the environment, this is a question that's been asked amongst some of your peers as well. You probably have line of sight into this better than anyone, just given the customers that you serve. But with the increase in funding that we're seeing now and the wider dispersion out there, how should we be thinking about the timeline of when that actually shows up either as awards and or in your backlog? Is there a time frame that you can help us think about? And then also, just in general, how is the cadence of decision making right now versus maybe 12 months ago?

48:49

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, the timing of when biotechs spend their money, look, I'm not the person to talk to about that. I don't know. I don't have a good feeling. A lot of our clients are raising money while they're getting bids from us, you know, so it's immediate kind of, but I just, you know, I don't know overall. So I don't really have a good insight into that.

49:14

Justin BowersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, and any change in the trajectory of decision-making timelines or competitive landscape?

49:20

August TroendleChief Executive Officer

Yeah, sorry. No, I mean, we're seeing more clients that come with recent funding and able to move forward in programs. We have seen better funding for things. So, yeah, the trajectory has been better and the opportunities, you know, moving along nicely. I, I, there's been, it isn't like a lot of things are hung up now or, you know, things, so I think trajectory has improved with the funding environment.

49:53

Justin BowersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, thank you. I'll jump back in queue. Thank you.

49:57

I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to David Rue for closing remarks.

50:03

David RuheInvestor Relations

Thank you for joining us on today's call and for your interest in Medpace. We look forward to speaking with you again on our third quarter 2026 earnings call. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.

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