ONE Gas (OGS) Q2 2025 earnings call transcript

Transcript, summary, guidance, and what analysts pressed on from the ONE Gas, Inc. call on August 6, 2025.

Held
August 6, 2025
Length
28 min
Tone
Confident0.82
Analysts
4
Words
3,983
2025 net income guidance
$261-$267 million2.5% above initial midpoint
2025 diluted EPS guidance
$4.32-$4.422.5% above initial midpoint
2025 capital expenditures
approximately $750 million
2025 O&M growth
4 percent CAGRfull-year expectation
Texas HB 4384 benefit
$4 to $5 millionannual pre-tax earnings
Forward equity proceeds
approximately $226 millionif settled at quarter-end
Texas rate case request
$41.1 millionrates targeted Q1 2026
Austin reinforcement pipe
more than 43,000 feetin service Q4 2025

Summary

Management framed the quarter as execution-driven, with Texas legislation adding earnings support while preserving disciplined capital deployment and selective growth.

Guidance

  • $267M2025 net income guidance $261-$267 million, 2.5% above initial midpoint
  • 2.5%2025 diluted EPS guidance $4.32-$4.42, 2.5% above initial midpoint
  • $750M2025 capital expenditures approximately $750 million
  • 4%2025 O&M growth 4 percent CAGR
  • $5M2025 Texas House Bill benefit $4 to $5 million annual pre-tax earnings at full run-rate

What analysts pressed on

  • 01House Bill 4384: $4 to $5 million annual pre-tax benefit, with 2025 reflecting roughly half-year impact
  • 02Long-term growth outlook: 2025 updated midpoint will remain the base for the new five-year range
  • 03Texas capital plan: no significant changes, with growth-driven spending remaining opportunity-dependent
  • 04Texas rate case: consolidation should reduce filing frequency, administrative costs, and service-territory volatility
  • 05Data centers and manufacturing: projects are screened for resiliency, affordability, timing, and strategic fit

Notable disclosures

  • 25%25% of planned Texas capital previously qualified for deferrals; House Bill 4384 extends treatment to all Texas capital expenditures
  • House Bill 4384 was not included in December guidance and is additive to the previously communicated plan
  • 40%40% of articulated five-year equity needs are covered by existing forward agreements
  • 18 Texas service areas have been reduced to three, with statewide consolidation now proposed
  • 70%70% of annual capital typically supports system integrity rather than discretionary growth

Risks raised

  • Texas Railroad Commission procedural rules for House Bill 4384 remain under development until next spring
  • Texas rate case approval remains pending, with proposed rates targeted for the first quarter of 2026
  • Customer affordability could constrain how rapidly reliability and growth investments are implemented
  • Macroeconomic uncertainty continues affecting commercial paper rate assumptions, with no 2025 rate cuts modeled

Tone: Confident 0.82

The tone was strongly positive, reflecting raised guidance, incremental Texas earnings support, funded equity needs, and sustained customer growth.

Who spoke

Company

  • Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations
  • Sid McAnnallyChief Executive Officer
  • Curtis DiningChief Operating Officer

Analysts

  • David ArcaroAnalyst, Morgan Stanley
  • Paul ZimbardoAnalyst, Jack Reese
  • Christopher JefferyAnalyst, Mizzou Harris Securites
  • SalmanAnalyst, Stiefel

Full transcript

Analyst questions are marked with a bar. Timestamps are into the recording.

Prepared remarks

00:00

Good day and welcome to the one gas second quarter earnings conference call. Space conference is being recorded and this time I would like to turn the conference over to Chris Signoffi. Please go ahead Mr. Signoffi.

00:13

Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations

Thank you Elliot. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us on our second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. This call is being webcast live and a replay will be available later today. After our prepared remarks we are happy to take your questions. Statements made during this call that might include one gas expectations or predictions should be considered forward looking statements and are covered by the safe harbor provisions of the private securities litigation reform act of 1995, the Securities Act of 1933, and the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934 each as amended.

Actual results could differ materially from those projected in any forward looking statements. For a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to our SEC filings. Joining me on the call this morning are Sid McEnally, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Curtis Dining, Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer.

Now I'll turn the call over to Sid.

01:15

Sid McAnnallyChief Executive Officer

Thanks Chris and good morning everyone. We're glad to be with you to discuss our second quarter results. Our strong performance this quarter reflects the consistent execution of our regulatory strategy, discipline to cost management, and increased customer demand. Net income for the quarter was $32 million or 53 cents per diluted share driven by new rates and an expanding customer base.

Given our results through the first half of the year, we are raising our full year 2025 financial guidance. We now expect net income between $261 and $267 million and earnings per diluted share between $4.32 and $4.42. This revised outlook reflects robust growth and the positive impact of Texas House Bill 4384, which was enacted earlier this summer and supports recovery of system investments in Texas.

Our 2025 equity needs, along with a portion of those expected in 2026, have been met through completed equity raises. Chris will elaborate more in a moment. We now have more than $226 million in expected proceeds secured under forward agreements and our well positioned to support our capital plan. We also continue to make progress on key regulatory matters during the quarter.

Curtis will speak to those in more detail. We appreciate the constructive engagement with regulators and stakeholders across our jurisdictions. Now I'll turn it back over to Chris for the financial details. Chris?

02:55

Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations

Thanks, Sid. As Sid mentioned, we have increased our 2025 financial guidance. Strong year to date performance, combined with the estimated impact of Texas House Bill 4384, which was signed by Governor Abbott on June 20, supports are updated for your outlook. We now expect net income between $261 and $267 million and diluted EPS between $4.32 and $4.42. Both two and a half percent above the respective midpoints of our initial guidance ranges.

We continue to project capital expenditures of approximately $750 million this year. Net income for the second quarter was $32 million or 53 cents per diluted share, compared with $27.2 million or 48 cents in the same period last year. Second quarter revenues reflect an increase of approximately $21.1 million from new rates and $1.5 million from continued customer growth.

Our operating and maintenance expenses increased by 7.5 percent year over year in the second quarter, broadly in line with our expectations. The increase primarily reflects higher labor-related expenses and the timing of other expenses. We continue to expect full-year O&M growth consistent with our guided 4 percent Kager. Excluding amounts related to KGSS1, interest expense in the second quarter was $1.3 million lower than the same 2024 period, primarily due to a lower weighted average interest rate on outstanding commercial paper balances.

This is the first quarter we have seen a sequential decline in interest expenses since 2021. Our conservative approach to modeling commercial paper rates amid macroeconomic uncertainty over the past few years has served as well. As a reminder, we do not have any interest rate cuts in our 2025 plan. In May, we executed a forward sale covering 2.5 million shares of common stock at a net price of approximately $78.5 per share to be settled by the end of 2026.

With this transaction, we now have forward sale agreements covering a total of 2.9 million shares. Had these been settled at quarter end, we would have received net proceeds of approximately $226 million.

As Sid noted, these transactions fully satisfy our 2025 equity needs and partially cover our anticipated 2026 requirements. In aggregate, existing forward represent roughly 40% of our articulated five-year equity needs. We'll continue to evaluate market conditions and remain opportunistic where it makes sense to support our capital plan. On Monday, the one gas board of directors declared a dividend of 67 cents per share unchanged from the previous quarter.

And now Curtis, I'll turn things to you.

06:02

Curtis DiningChief Operating Officer

Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I'll start with an update on our regulatory activities. The Oklahoma Corporation Commission recently approved a $41.1 million revenue increase pursuant to the performance-based rate change application that was filed in February with new rates effective in June.

Texas Gas Service filed a rate case in June that covers all customers across our Texas service areas. The filing requests a $41.1 million rate increase and proposes consolidating these service areas into a single jurisdiction.

The filing was submitted to the cities, including Austin and El Paso, and to the Railroad Commission for the unincorporated areas. It is based on a 10.4% return on equity and a 59.9% common equity ratio. If approved, new rates would take effect in the first quarter of 2026.

In June, we also implemented rates for gas reliability infrastructure program filings resulting in a $15.4 million increase for the central Gulf service area and an $8.2 million increase for the West North service area. We also submitted a grip filing in the Rio Grande Valley service area in April, requesting a $3.2 million increase to take effect in September.

Finally, the Kansas Corporation Commission approved a $7.2 million increase under the gas system reliability surcharge statute with new rates taking effect this month.

As we continue investing in system safety and reliability to meet the growing demand for natural gas, we remain focused on keeping customer costs manageable. Affordability is a key consideration in our planning and implementation of rate mechanisms, and we will continue working with regulators and stakeholders to balance system needs with customer impact.

Turning to operations, the second quarter broad and usually wet conditions across our service territories. Oklahoma recorded its wetest April on record, and many areas in Oklahoma and Kansas saw record rainfall. Despite persistent storms and localized flooding, our teams closely monitored flood-prone locations, and we did not experience any material service outages. The severe flooding in central Texas over the 4th of July holiday did not directly impact our service areas or any of our coworkers.

Our thoughts remain with the communities affected by this devastating event. Amid these challenging conditions, we continued to execute on our capital program, completing $190 million in capital projects this quarter, relatively in line with the same period last year. Progress continues on the Austin System Reinforcement Project, our largest capital investment since our separation from One Oak in 2014. This project will introduce a new source of supply and expand system capacity to support growing demand in the Austin area.

Today, we've installed more than 43,000 feet of pipe and remain on track to have the project in service during the fourth quarter of this year. Regarding growth, we installed nearly 11,400 new meters through the first half of the year as new housing developments continue to expand across our service areas. The second quarter sustained the momentum we saw in the first, with both quarters delivering more than a 9% year over year increase in new customer additions.

Growth remains strongest in the major metropolitan areas across our territory. We continue to field inquiries and pursue opportunities to meet the growing needs of data centers, advanced manufacturing, and utility-scale generation. Our approach is deliberate and grounded in identifying projects that enhance system resiliency, position us for additional growth, and align with customer needs. These efforts focus on scalable opportunities in growing areas where natural gas infrastructure can deliver long-term value. We are encouraged by the momentum we are seeing and look forward to building on that progress in the second half of the year.

And now I'll turn it over to Sid for closing remarks.

10:38

Sid McAnnallyChief Executive Officer

Thanks Curtis. We're pleased with our performance in the first half of the year. We delivered strong operational and financial results, raised our full-year guidance, advanced regulatory efforts across all jurisdictions, and strengthened our capital position. As we look to the remainder of the year, we remain focused on discipline, execution, and long-term growth across our business. I want to express my appreciation to our service and reliability, enables us to meet our mission and deliver the benefits of natural gas to the customers and communities that we serve.

Questions and answers

11:13

Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations

Operator, we're now ready for questions.

11:21

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. It will pause for a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions.

11:47

David ArcaroAnalyst, Morgan Stanley

First question comes from David Alcaro with Morgan Stanley. The line is open, please go ahead. Hey, thanks. Good morning. Good morning, David. I was wondering on on on House Bill 4384, could you elaborate a bit on how that impacts the financials, like how much could that reduce lag or improved, improve earned RWE, and is the EPS impact that you're reflecting here for 2025? Is that a full run rate annual level that we should think about?

12:22

Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations

Hi, David. It's Chris. Perhaps some background will be helpful in addressing your question. In 2011, the Railroad Commission adopted Rule 8.209 of the Texas administrative code, which allowed natural gas utilities in the state to defer depreciation and ad valorem tax and to accrue a carrying charge on qualifying safety-related capital expenditures until their next filing. As you can see in our investor materials, we are planning to spend just over $300 million in Texas this year, and roughly 25% of this amount qualified for the accounting result in roughly $4 to $5 million of annual pre-tax earnings. House Bill 4384 extends those deferrals and accruals of $8.209 to all of our capital expenditures in Texas.

It was signed into law on the 20th of June, and the RRC is now engaged in drafting procedural rules around it, a process that it has until next spring to complete.

13:34

David ArcaroAnalyst, Morgan Stanley

Well, okay. Got it. Got it. Thanks. So let me see. It sounded like the $4 to $5 million. That'll go up based on just the expanded deferrals across your entire CAPEX outlook. And I guess it sounds like that's a continuing benefit. I guess, how do you think of that in the context of your watch for there as you clarify or as they clarify the process before you were to address the longer term outlook? I think that's right. So again, when we did our guidance update last December, this House Bill, the implications of it were not contemplated because it wasn't an existence at that point.

14:30

Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations

So it's additive to the plan we communicated last December. As you think about to your point, the process is no different than simply taking the applicable capital that was covered by $8.209 and expanding the capital applicable to that treatment to all of our capital activities in Texas.

14:52

David ArcaroAnalyst, Morgan Stanley

Yep. Got it. And just a quick clarification to like the 2025 increase here. Is that applying this to half the year? I guess post the signing of this bill into law?

15:13

Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations

Yeah, that would be correct.

15:13

David ArcaroAnalyst, Morgan Stanley

I understood. I'll leave it there. Thanks so much.

15:21

Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations

Thank you, David.

15:21

We now turn to Paul Simbardo with Jack Reese. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

15:32

Paul ZimbardoAnalyst, Jack Reese

Hi. Good morning, Dean. Thank you. Good morning, Paul. To continue off the last question, I don't want to steal the thunder from your traditional cycle update later this year, but I know you typically use the prior years, the base for the long-term growth rate.

15:50

Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations

Any thoughts or initial impressions you can share on the comfort in using the increase growth rate, and I know you have the guidance of the high-end of 4 to 6 off of 24, just any initial thoughts you can share will be helpful. Hi, Paul. It's Chris again. Yeah, if you and that you followed us for a loss, you understand, our process is rather mechanical and metronomic. We just roll forward. And so we intend to use 2025. The updated midpoint of guidance should remain the same at that point as a base point for the new five-year range, consistent with how we've always done it since the separation from one of 11 years ago.

16:40

Paul ZimbardoAnalyst, Jack Reese

Okay. Great. Now that's what I thought there. And just does this change the capital plans for Texas? I know that's if I have a right, your fastest growing restriction with the reduced lag. Just any thoughts you can share on like the overall capital plan, whether from the favorable bill enactment or local trends that you're seeing, like some of the things you mentioned in Austin. Thanks.

17:03

Sid McAnnallyChief Executive Officer

Paul, it said thanks for that question. As you know from following the company, we have an intentional process to go through both on the system integrity side and on the growth side. And so we remain committed to that. You shouldn't expect to see any change in our approach on either of those. A system integrity will respond to the needs of each state in our jurisdiction based on the needs. We've been true to that since then in 2014 and we'll remain true to that going forward.

On the commercial side, you know, we do continue to see substantial growth in our Texas jurisdictions. So you can expect that growth trajectory to follow the activity that's well known in Texas, but we won't make significant swings or changes because of that. We will respond to the opportunities that develop as we see communities continuing to develop, not just in the Austin area but across the state. So we like the plan that we have. We plan to execute it.

18:05

Curtis DiningChief Operating Officer

As you heard, our first half results have demonstrated an increase in growth beyond what we projected. So we think that all sets up really well for the second half.

18:21

Sid McAnnallyChief Executive Officer

Curtis, would you add anything? I would just add a little bit of color or context to that said from the growth that we've been seeing coming into the states, both Oklahoma and Texas and to some extent, Kansas have seen net positive in migration over the past few years. As an example, in Oklahoma City and Tulsa, we've seen an average of plus 7% in migration, a lot of job creation over that period and the same thing's true in Austin and El Paso. Those would be the bigger drivers that would have an impact on where capital gets spent, not on the integrity spend, which again is 70% of our capital typically each year.

Paul, the only thing I'd add in closing is that Curtis spoke to the progress that we've made on the Austin System Reinforcement Project. So when you think about system integrity, it's not just replacement programs, it's also building new infrastructure to serve these growing areas. And so that's what generated the project that Curtis referenced, that we've had some progress on the construction and we'll keep you up to date as that project comes into completion.

19:37

Paul ZimbardoAnalyst, Jack Reese

Understand. Excellent. Thank you. I know it's not around the corner, but I think this might be our most exciting December breakfast yet.

19:41

Christopher JefferyAnalyst, Mizzou Harris Securites

So looking forward to the opportunity, Christopher Jeffery with Mizzou Harris secures these. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Hi, everyone. Congratulations on the strong update. Maybe just to switch to the Texas rate case, just to ask a similar question as far as where and how that was anticipated within the long-term guidance. And maybe just if you could touch on consolidation in terms of any benefits, besides regulatory simplicity, but anything that might be incremental to the guide.

20:30

Curtis DiningChief Operating Officer

Chris, this is Curtis. And in the five-year guidance we had, we were contemplating a consolidation case in Texas. You'll recall from the remarks I made at the beginning, we did all of our normal grip capital filings in the early part of the year. So this filing is more about catching up O&M expenses from the inflationary periods and then a consolidation of those jurisdictions.

This has been an effort of the company since the early 2000s when we acquired Texas to consolidate the different service areas. I think we had 18 at one point. And the benefit of that happens in the process. There's less frequency of times that you need to go file rate cases. And ultimately that produces the savings for the customer because it reduces all the administrative costs of going through that process. So it's good in that respect and then it equalizes what's happening in the state across a larger customer base so it diminishes the impact of things that may happen in one service territory from time to time and reduces or mitigates how that impact may be felt by those individual customers.

So again, the biggest part is the efficiency of it. It's fewer filings, it's lower cost and we think that has been a positive that we've seen in the period as we've been going from 18 to 3 and hopefully to a statewide rate mechanism at the completion of this.

22:05

Christopher JefferyAnalyst, Mizzou Harris Securites

Great, thank you Curtis. And then maybe just any updates as far as the potential for one guest to participate in power load growth data center opportunities that have been discussed in the past and maybe to the prior points of additional capex opportunities in Texas. Anything kind of interrelated to that?

22:38

Curtis DiningChief Operating Officer

Chris, there are a number of those that we're pursuing. I would say the number of inbound calls that we're getting is quite significant and we have a fairly stringent process that we go through to strain out the ones that we think have the most potential or most fit with what our strategic objectives are. And as I said in the comments, what we're trying to do is identify projects that further help enhance our system resiliency. So like an Austin system reinforcement project that's bringing much needed supply into that area, if you have the opportunity to combine a new commercial opportunity with reinforcing your system or focusing on system integrity, focusing on other long-term growth or whatever customer needs are, we're trying to pair several of those things together to use that as a project because we think that in the long run is the best opportunity for our customers and from an affordability standpoint, that's a really good use of our capital dollars rather than doing each of those things individually and in a discrete fashion that may lead to higher capital costs.

So it's not just in Texas that we're seeing that, we're seeing it in Oklahoma and we're seeing it in Kansas also and it's data center load, it's advanced manufacturing, there's a project that I think is getting pretty close for us that's both advanced manufacturing combined with the data center and there's of course some electric scale generation that we're in various stages of discussions with. So all of those things are positive and as I said we're trying to marry those with other types of projects that we have on the drawing board and marry those so whereas efficient as we can be with the capital that gets deployed.

24:29

Christopher JefferyAnalyst, Mizzou Harris Securites

Does that get to your question Chris? Yeah absolutely it occurred us going to ask quickly on that potential opportunity whether which state that's in as far as the manufacturing one you mentioned.

24:46

Curtis DiningChief Operating Officer

We'll be ready hopefully you're in the very near future to talk more about it.

24:52

Christopher JefferyAnalyst, Mizzou Harris Securites

Yes I appreciate it thanks thanks everyone for the help.

24:55

Curtis DiningChief Operating Officer

You bet thanks for the questions.

24:55

Our next question comes from Salman, actual with Stiefel. Your line is open please go ahead.

25:06

SalmanAnalyst, Stiefel

Thank you good morning all. Congrats on a good quarter and update. I just wanted to follow up on the last questions there. Is this something that we you'll see manifest in 2026? We've heard that the regulatory models are ahead of sort of behind the meter kind of projects out there and so does it sounds like it's coming sooner than later?

25:35

Curtis DiningChief Operating Officer

Salman there's both. There's some that I think are more immediate that it's not a large capital project or a lot of capital dollars to serve those companies because one of the benefits of being involved in the economic development that our states are doing is we're much earlier in the process when these companies are going through their site selection process and so they may have an eye in a certain area but they want natural gas service. Well if it's a customer that needs to be very quick to market and that particular area that they first look at is going to be longer or a more expensive project to get to but we can serve them in this other location much quicker we can steer them in those directions and help get them in service much sooner than that other project.

So there's different types of those discussions happening sometimes again it's in an area of the system we have a lot of capacity and we can serve them very quickly. Other projects it's a little bit further away there's more assets that have to be built to serve them and so it's going to take a little bit longer. So I'm optimistic both in the near term with some of the projects that are there but I see a long runway of opportunities developing also.

26:52

Sid McAnnallyChief Executive Officer

Selman this is kind of just in addition to Curtis's answer and you follow the company for a long time so you know this well we've got organic opportunities across the footprint that gives us the ability to evaluate these projects in a different way than if we didn't have that level of growth. So we can bring a discretionary view to projects and to Curtis's point look at how they support our strategic plan in the long run in terms of the system build out and areas that we want to expand into so the cone that Curtis and his team have developed is pretty robust and allows us to be very thoughtful about which projects we engage in and be quick to sideline other projects which is a much more efficient way to go about this marketplace.

27:40

SalmanAnalyst, Stiefel

All right thanks for that additional detail.

27:52

That concludes the question and answer session and I'll let you hand back to the one gas team for closing remarks.

27:57

Chris SignoffiInvestor Relations

Thank you Elliot and again to everyone for their interest in one gas. Our quiet period for the third quarter starts when we close our books in early October and extends until we release earnings on November the third. We'll provide details about the conference call at a later date. Have a wonderful day.

28:14

This concludes the one gas second quarter earnings conference call. You may now disconnect.

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