Resideo Technologies (REZI) Q2 2026 earnings call transcript

Transcript, summary, guidance, and what analysts pressed on from the Resideo Technologies, Inc. call on August 12, 2026.

Held
August 12, 2026
Length
45 min
Tone
Positive0.55
Analysts
5
Words
6,130
FY2026 standalone revenue
$2.9 to $2.95 billion
FY2026 adjusted EBITDA
$605 to $625 millionstandalone
Q3 2026 revenue
$705 to $730 millionstandalone
Q3 2026 adjusted EBITDA
$145 to $155 millionstandalone
H2 OEM security revenue
$40 to $50 million lessyear over year
Term loan repayment
$900 millionpaid August 3rd
Additional term loan repayment
approximately $200 millionexpected in Q3
FY2026 sales to ADI
approximately $175 millionstandalone outlook

Summary

Management framed the quarter as execution-led growth ahead of expectations, while shifting focus to standalone operations and near-term input-cost and OEM-security pressures.

  • 13 consecutive quarters of P&S gross-margin expansion continued, with operational efficiency—not pricing—driving the latest improvement.
  • OEM security weakness reflects one large customer's vertical-integration decision, not a deteriorating relationship or broader channel view.
  • Input-cost inflation is expected to weigh most heavily in Q3 before pricing catches up; management does not expect material tariff costs or refunds in the remainder of 2026.
  • Management described additional manufacturing-footprint and product-platform optimization actions as material long-term levers beyond ongoing efforts.

Guidance

  • $2.95BFY2026 standalone revenue $2.9 to $2.95 billion
  • $625MFY2026 standalone adjusted EBITDA $605 to $625 million
  • $730MQ3 2026 standalone revenue $705 to $730 million
  • $155MQ3 2026 standalone adjusted EBITDA $145 to $155 million
  • $50MSecond-half 2026 OEM security revenue $40 to $50 million less year over year
  • $175MFY2026 sales to ADI approximately $175 million
  • $80MFY2026 standalone corporate costs approximately $80 million

What analysts pressed on

  • 01Standalone revenue growth: management said P&S growth is almost 3% for 2026, above the analyst's 2% calculation, with OEM security weakness a midyear development.
  • 02Gross-margin cadence: Q3 faces the greatest temporary input-cost pressure; management said pricing offsets costs with a lag and declined to quantify quarterly margins.
  • 03New products and pricing: management cited smoke/CO, thermostat, and security launches, while saying recent cost shocks exceed the investor-day pricing assumption and should not persist long term.
  • 04HVAC demand and comps: management expects second-half growth but characterized markets as muted and declined to provide channel-level quarterly guidance.
  • 05Operational optimization: management confirmed actions beyond ongoing efforts, including footprint review and platform consolidation, but declined to quantify their magnitude.
  • 06OEM security customer: management described a healthy relationship but said the customer is pursuing vertical integration, with the revenue impact stair-stepping through Q2 next year.

Notable disclosures

  • Q3 is expected to absorb the greatest input-cost pressure before announced pricing fully takes effect.
  • Management said Q2 gross-margin improvement came from conversion efficiency and volume, not pricing.
  • $50MThe OEM customer's vertical integration is expected to reduce second-half revenue by $40 to $50 million, with Q4 more affected than Q3.
  • Planned operational actions include manufacturing-footprint review and reducing product platforms from tens or hundreds to one or a handful per product line.
  • Management said the OEM-security decline is already included in medium-term investor-day targets and is separate from branded security refresh momentum.

Risks raised

  • Soft housing and muted HVAC and security markets limit reliance on end-market recovery to drive growth.
  • Higher memory, metals, printed-circuit-board, semiconductor, and shipping costs are expected to pressure second-half gross margins.
  • A large OEM security customer is vertically integrating, reducing expected second-half revenue by $40 to $50 million year over year.
  • Pricing increases have customer-notice-period lags and are not expected to offset inflation dollar for dollar immediately.
  • Lower OEM-security volumes are expected to persist into next year, with management expecting the impact to plateau by Q2.

Tone: Positive 0.55

The call emphasized record execution, new-product momentum, and confidence in long-term levers, tempered by soft markets, inflation, and OEM-security declines.

Who spoke

Company

  • Chris LeeGlobal Head of Strategic Finance
  • Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Analysts

  • Eric WoodringAnalyst, Morgan Stanley
  • Ian ZaffinoAnalyst, Oppenheimer
  • Tomo SanoAnalyst, JPMorgan
  • Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Jefferies
  • Jay GoldbergAnalyst, D2D Advisory

Full transcript

Analyst questions are marked with a bar. Timestamps are into the recording.

Prepared remarks

00:01

Hello everyone, thank you for joining us and welcome to the Residio 2nd Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Chris Lee, Global Head of Strategic Finance. Please go ahead.

00:25

Chris LeeGlobal Head of Strategic Finance

Thank you and good afternoon everyone. Thank you for joining us for Residio's 2nd Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. Joining me on today's call is Tom Saran, Residio's Chief Executive Officer.

We would like to remind you that this afternoon's call contains forward-looking statements. Statements other than historical facts made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements and are not guarantees of future performance or results and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those described from time to time in Residio's filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. We identify the principal risks and uncertainties that affect our performance in our annual report on Form 10K and other SEC filings. In addition, we will discuss non-GAP financial measures on today's call.

These non-GAP financial measures which can sometimes be identified by the use of adjusted and the description of the measure should be considered in addition to not as a substitute for or an isolation from our GAP results. A reconciliation of GAP to non-GAP financial measures is included in the Financial Data Workbook which is accessible on the investor relations page of our website at investor. residio. com.

Unless stated otherwise, all numbers and results discussed on today's call other than revenue are on a non-GAP basis. With that, I will turn the call over to Tom.

02:18

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Thank you, Chris, and thanks to everyone for joining us today. Before I speak about the quarter, the entire team would like to thank Jay Gelbacher for his service as CEO over the last six years. During his tenure, Jay applied his operational and technical expertise to help Residio to get where we are today both strategically and operationally. Jay led us through two major acquisitions. The recent spend and provided a steady hand through a dynamic market condition. Jay's interactions with customers, partners, and employees have created a tremendous company culture and strong enduring relationships that will benefit Residio for a long time. Also, earlier today, we announced Shane Harrison as Residio's next CFL.

I had the opportunity to work with Shane during our time together and clear, so I know firsthand the kind of leader we are bringing into Residio. Shane is highly capable, dedicated, and execution oriented. He consistently took on challenging assignments, delivered exceptional results, who was a major contributor to clear success.

He combined strong financial and strategic capabilities with sound judgment, a willingness to dig into details, and a focus on getting things done. I also know him to be a person of high integrity and someone who works extremely well with others. Shane will be joining us on September 1st. As you were aware, we completed the ADI Global Distribution Spinoff on August 3rd. As in prior releases, our discussion of the second quarter results, however, will be at time on a consolidated basis as the products and solutions and ADI business segments both operated under Residio in the second fiscal quarter of 2026.

As usual, we will also discuss the results of each segment on a segmented accounting basis. As has been the case in the past, these segmented results do not include a full allocation of corporate costs borne by the business as a whole.

Finally, there is also information in our earnings material that refers to Residio's standalone results, which are presented as if the ADI spinoff was completed on January 1st, 2026, and include adjustment to certain financial line items to reflect management estimates of what our results would have been. We have provided a bridge from P&S segmented results to Residio's standalone results in our earnings release.

Starting with our third quarter financial statements, we will classify ADI as discontinued operations for that quarter and all prior periods. I will discuss Residio's consolidated second quarter results before I hand the call over to Chris to speak about the balance sheet, cash flow, and ADI. Chris will then hand the call back to me to speak about the products and solutions segment results and Residio's 2026 standalone outlook. In the second quarter, we were pleased with a continued execution demonstrated by the entire team as we exceeded the high end of the second quarter outlook ranges for all metrics, both the consolidated and business segment level. Total revenue grew 2% year over year to just under $2 billion, a new quarterly record.

Total adjusted EBITDA through 19% year over year to $249 million, another new quarterly record. Adjusted EBITDA includes the favorable impact of $27 million of tariff refund during the quarter, primarily received by ADI. Total adjusted earnings per share grew 26% year over year to 83 cents. Overall, we are pleased with both the top and bottom line performance for Residio in the second quarter.

Now, let me hand the call over to Chris to discuss the balance sheet, cash flow, and ADI.

06:30

Chris LeeGlobal Head of Strategic Finance

Thanks, Tom. Total reported cash provided by operating activities in the second quarter was $148 million versus the $200 million generated in the same period last year. The year over year decrease was driven primarily by approximately $45 million in payments for non-recurring business separation activities and settlements, including the termination of the Honeywell tax matters agreement. There was also a $20 million use of cash for higher cash interest paid. The decrease was partially offset by higher net income and less cash taxes paid. Consistent with our investor day messaging, Residio started deleveraging on August 3rd, paying down $900 million of outstanding principal under the term loan B credit facility. We expect to make an additional repayment of approximately $200 million on the term loan B credit facility in the third quarter following completion of the post-closing cash adjustment under the separation agreement with ADI.

With respect to the ADI segment, we have provided its second quarter segment results in our press release. ADI and will speak about its results and outlook in more detail on its earnings call. ADIG will present its results derived from Residio's accounting records and presented on a carve out accounting basis.

On behalf of the entire Residio management team, we would like to congratulate Rob and the ADI team on the completion of the spin and their new life as a standalone public company. They will remain an important partner to Residio. Let me hand the call back over to Tom to discuss the products and solutions segment results and Residio's 2026 outlook on a stand-alone basis.

09:03

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Thanks, Chris. The products and solutions segment continued its strong operational execution despite soft housing trends and inflationary input costs. The team achieved another quarter of year over year revenue growth and the 13th consecutive quarter of year over year gross margin expansion. Product and solutions reported revenue growth of 4% year over year, including an approximate 35 basis point favorable impact from currency. Revenue grew across substantially all of our sales channels and product families driven primarily by volume from customer demand. Let me walk through our performance by primary sales channel.

First, in the retail channel, we experienced another quarter of strong year over year revenue growth driven primarily by increased volumes for higher value products. Adoption of our combination smoke and CO detectors and our new thermostats continues to be strong and ahead of our expectations. Our point of sales volumes at our key accounts continues to be strong and is supported by healthy levels of channel inventory.

In the OEM combustion channel, also reported as energy category, posted its seventh consecutive quarter of year over year revenue growth against a tough comparison.

Growth was driven primarily by continued demand for higher price products primarily in amia. In the HVAC distribution channel, revenue returned to year over year growth. Revenue growth was driven primarily by volume led by another quarter of strong customer adoption of the Honeywell Home Elite Pro, our new premium smart thermostat. Demand continues to exceed our expectations and is resulted in our increased presence in the high-end connected segment of the market.

In addition, our new dehumidification and water filtration products increase our category penetration and continues the positive momentum generated from the execution of our strategy. Conditions in the residential HVAC market remain stable versus last quarter. Our channel inventory remained healthy and increased modestly from the prior quarter. The electrical distribution channel had another quarter of year over year revenue growth, driven primarily by volume. We saw continued demand for our BRK branded non-connected safety products primarily in the maintenance repair and operations market, but also the manufactured housing market. Our content per new residential bill home remains stable, quarter over quarter, amidst the continued soft market per new home bill.

Revenue from the security distribution channel was flat year over year given the continued soft market for security installs related to the resale of existing homes. OEM security sales were down slightly year over year due to reduced volumes with a large OEM security customer. This was in line with our expectations for the corner and with our strategy to focus on higher margin branded business.

Moving on to profitability, our gross margin percentage was 43.6% up 70 basis point year over year and up 100 basis points sequentially. Gross margin expansion was driven by volume increases, favorable manufacturing and supply chain variances and tariff refund, partially offset by product sales. We also incurred inflationary input costs which we do not believe are permanent but are only partially offset by the price actions we announced last quarter. PNS segmented adjusted EBITDA through 6% year over year due primarily to higher gross profit dollars. As discussed at our recent investor day, R&D continues to be approximately 5% of total segmented revenue as we invest behind new product launches and speed to market. Operating expenses increased due primarily to higher legal settlement costs.

Before I provide our full year 2026 and third quarter financial outlook for standalone Residio, let me walk you through some of our current market perspectives and assumptions. First, we believe Residio can continue with steady execution through a residential macroeconomic environment that is persistently soft. We also anticipate continued demand for our products and year over year revenue growth across all channels other than OEM security during the second half of 2026. We anticipate some continued weakness in the OEM security channels. Our current outlook reflects lower volumes from a large OEM security customer which we expect will result in 40 to 50 million dollars less revenue in the second half of 2026 versus the same period in the prior year.

Input costs such as memory, metals, printed circuit boards, semiconductor and shipping continue to increase, educate greater than originally expected due to dynamic global conditions. While we proactively instituted price increases during the second quarter, our outlook incorporates a slight headwind to gross margin due to higher input costs anticipated in the second half of the year compared to the most recent quarter. We do not anticipate material cost increases related to tariffs after conducting our assessment on the recent trade actions announced by the US administration on July 24th. We also do not anticipate receiving any material care free funds for the remainder of 2026. Due to our corporate accounting calendar, there is one extra day in the third quarter of 2026 and four fewer days in the fourth quarter of 2026 both versus the same period last year.

Now as to our outlook. We are initiating our outlook for Residio on a standalone basis. Starting in the third quarter of 2026, Residio will no longer consolidate its former ADI global distribution segment and results for that segment for all periods prior to the ADI spin-off date will be reflected as discontinued operations.

Our outlook is presented as if we had operated as a standalone company for the first half of 26 coupled with our standalone outlook for the remainder of the year. This outlook includes sales to ADI as an external customer and approximately 80 million dollars a full year corporate cost allocated to standalone Residio. The full year of sales to ADI are anticipated to be approximately $175 million dollars. In our earnings press release, earnings presentation and financial data workbook, all of which can be found on our website, we have included a revenue and EBITDA bridge from reported segment results to a standalone basis. During this short transition period, the standalone outlook we are providing is for revenue and adjusted EBITDA on.

We intend to provide our outlook for adjusted earnings per share and cash from operations upon completion of certain activities including the post closing cash adjustment under the separation agreement with ADI that is to be calculated in the coming week. We intend to once again provide outlook on these metrics starting with our third quarter earnings call.

With that, our standalone outlook for 2026 is as follows, revenue in the range of 2.9 to 2.95 billion dollars, adjusted EBITDA in the range of 605 to 625 million dollars and our standalone outlook for the third quarter of 2026 is as follows, revenue in the range of 705 to 730 million dollars and adjusted EBITDA in the range of 145 to 155 million dollars.

Looking forward, I would like to reiterate some of our key themes from our recent investor day. The new Residio was focused on its mission as a pure play building technologies company. We believe we have tremendous market momentum from the recent introduction of new differentiated products that strengthen our customer value proposition and in turn will fuel the near and medium term financial targets we laid out today and at our investor day. Those targets reflect the business with higher gross and operating margins than the historical Residio coupled with continued strong cash flow generation.

We're very excited about the launch of new products in the second half of 2026, including our new smoke and CO detector platform and our new video surveillance and intrusion security products to name a few. And as we discussed at length during our investor day, we have several levers we are pulling that are intended to strategically optimize our operations throughout the remainder of this year and beyond. With our track record of execution, our stellar team and our focus go forward strategy, I am extremely confident in our profitable growth overhead.

Now let's open the call for questions operator.

Questions and answers

19:16

We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow up. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand to withdraw your question press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you're muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. The first question comes from the line of Eric Woodring with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

19:59

Eric WoodringAnalyst, Morgan Stanley

Super guys, thank you very much for taking my question and congrats again on the spin. Tom, I just want to make sure we're doing kind of a like for like comparison here. So if I go back to last quarter, the guide for, you know, whole code 2026 revenue growth was 5% year over here at the midpoint. There were remarks that PNS and ADI revenue would grow it roughly the same rights. Again, call it around 5% year over year. I think if I take your new standalone PNS revenue guidance of 2.925 billion at the midpoint and compare it to standalone revs in 2025, we're now getting to PNS revenue growth of 2% year over year in 2026.

So first, can you just comment, is that math correct? And then if so, why are we guiding down relative to 90 days go after just beating the second quarter? What is changing about the second half? And then a quick follow up, please.

20:57

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Okay. So the math is a little bit off. So I'd have to go through exactly how you did your calculations. But no, but the assumption what was said was that the things with the two segments would have similar growth for the year. We did not specify that it was PNS coming up in its revenue growth versus ADI coming down.

But the projection that we have for PNS, A, the growth is higher than the number 2% that you've stated. So overall, for the year, it's almost 3%. Now, in terms of how, if you want to talk about exactly your math, we can get through that. But generally, that's in line with what our expectations have been. Now, in the second half of the year, we do have the issues that we described about OEM security, which were something that came about in the mid part of the year. This is what we talked about before. It's one that's determined by a third party.

And so we have to respond to that.

22:11

Chris LeeGlobal Head of Strategic Finance

Hey, Eric, it's Chris. The one other thing I like to add is if you look at the first half performance for products and solutions at the segment level, we outperformed our expectations given growth across most channels. And we still anticipate growth in the second half of the year across many of our channels with the exception of the OEM security channel like Tom just mentioned.

22:42

Eric WoodringAnalyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, all right, we can do the bathroom offline, but I appreciate all that color guys. Thank you. And then just a quick follow up, Tom or Chris, just can you maybe help us better understand how to think about the linearity of gross margins over kind of the next six months or two quarters? Just there's a number of moving pieces when we think about seasonality, input cost, inflation, pricing, mix, and market softness and PI.

Just any way that you can help us understand how to think about that kind of trajectory would be super helpful. Thanks, guys.

23:18

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Yeah. So I think in terms of because of the input cost that we've talked about, the biggest rate challenge for us is Q3. So we said it always said it was never going to and I think Q3, we're going to see probably that most of the temporary input cost going up before all of the pricing catches up to it. So it's probably going to hit us most in Q3. But we're not talking that fear. I mean, most of this is going to be recovered by pricing, but there will be some, I'm not sure that we will get gross profit for 14th consecutive quarter. It's well within the possibility, but it's not something we're focused on right now just because of those activities.

24:08

Chris LeeGlobal Head of Strategic Finance

And one other thing to mention, Eric, remember last quarter when we talked about the price increase that we were implementing in Q2. We did implement that price increase, but we also said it would have a lag impact because of certain customer provisions that we have with certain customers in terms of a notice period. So, you know, while we have increased pricing, and as Tom just said, the price increase is helping to offset some of the inflationary costs. It's not a dollar for dollar offset.

24:42

Eric WoodringAnalyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Awesome. Thank you guys very much. I really appreciate the color.

24:51

The next question comes from the line of Dan Strademyer with Jeffries. Your line is now open.

24:58

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Jefferies

Hey, gentlemen. Congratulations again, Tom. Congratulations on your first call as a CEO. Let me follow up on an Eric's question and ask a little bit differently, but maybe tie it back in.

Can you help us understand the cadence and sort of the number, actually not the exact number, but looking at your NPIs that are going to be coming out over the next 18 months. It's obviously being a big part of your growth, your growth margin expansion. How would you compare what you the last 18 months and maybe like the magnitude of what's coming versus what already came out?

And then Eric's question, I think someone also asked is that the investor day, when you add your build up to your, you know, five-year cagers in your projections at the investor day, you only had one to one and a half percent pricing. Seemingly, there's a lot of inflationary pressures, and it seems like one and a one and a half percent seems lower at a place, especially with the mix of new products coming in. Can you help us understand the pricing philosophy and how you came to that one to one and a half percent number and have a follow-up?

26:07

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Sure. Sure, Dan. Thank you. So, let's deal with the idea. So we've got, we're pretty excited about the second half of the year, but for instance, on our Smoke and CEO detector platform that we're introducing, that product will first go into the American market replacing the eighth edition UL products that are out there. It has a better cost profile to it. It'll have a better margin profile to it.

We think it performs well. We think it'll continue to drive revenue growth, but it's really about creating that global platform that allows us to build even further out. Second, we're introducing the Fordic platform to the marketplace and bringing that all the way across all of our products. That's going to be very important. It's a major effort. It doesn't necessarily in and of itself drive revenue immediately, but long term, it's a very key part of our strategy. Some of the security products that will be built out or brought to the market, I think that they will help drive the revenue. But I think the best thing to think about overall is excluding OEM security products. We are expecting revenue growth across all of the other product areas.

That's the first piece. The cadence of the MPI, we are seeing momentum. Generally, yes, we are continuing to see more products coming out with shorter development cycles than we are continuing to have a very healthy pipeline for thereafter. In terms of your second question, the pricing. You're right. If we experience the conditions that we do have experienced recently, memory costs going up, 4x, metal costs going up 35%, and now these shortages of things like low thermal expansion, fiberglass driving, printed circuit boards, and all of these shocks from the data centers, 100%, that that would be, these are significant costs. They're able to be currently absorbed by pricing offsets and certain other efforts to try to reduce the cost of our products.

But they do have an impact. That said, we do not believe that these will be long-term costs increasing. Some of it will stick. But I think long-term, we will see these basically rollback up. We're seeing more memory coming online from some of the suppliers related to, especially the generations and the geometries that we consume. We have a good visibility of what will be happening. These prices are going to start unwinding.

As the competition comes to the market, capacity comes available. I don't think that we're going to see a long-term shortage on thermal expansion fiber. I don't think we're going to see a long-term contraction in the memory supply market. Metals and fuel, those are shocks from what's going on in the world. Those things, yes, they impact the short term, but over a five-year term, they shouldn't be considered a trend.

29:21

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Jefferies

You threw one line in there at the end that caught my attention, which was strategically optimized our operations throughout the remainder of the year. What does that mean? What's the magnitude of it? Can you help us understand the drivers of that, if you don't mind, please?

29:48

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

We have to be a little in terms of discussing some of these things. There's certain sensitivities, but we've spoken about always reviewing our manufacturing footprint and our costs. How can we optimize those things to reduce our product costs and pass that up on customers as well as through our market? That's something we're actively doing. We're looking at all of our operations worldwide to take those actions that we think will benefit the company long-term.

30:23

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Jefferies

Is this above and beyond what you've already always been doing?

30:28

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Yes. Again, Dan, just in terms of this, this is a long-term plan. When we talk about this, and thereafter, actually, but certainly in the next five years, we have specific lay actions that we want to take that will make a material impact to the company. We talked about the closing of the T&J so that we talked about the closing of the latter. We're reviewing a manufacturing footprint. We're optimizing our product, the manufacturing, and the execution and all of our and then just the pile on. This is also a schematic to the replatforming that we've talked about moving from tens or hundreds down to one to a handful by product line. These are all levers that are really under our control.

I think that's important to understand and ties back into what Tom said of this as part of the long-term plan. Those actions improve the efficiency of our operations, but they, and then themselves, are only to do that. We talked about platforming, but there's other actions related to the efficiency of our operations.

31:46

The next question comes from the line of Ian Zafino with Oppenheim Marenko. Your line is now open.

31:55

Ian ZaffinoAnalyst, Oppenheimer

Hi, great. Thank you very much. Just want to drill down a little bit on the air and H for that. Maybe help us understand what the environment is that you saw in the second quarter. Then how do we think about the rest of the year? I know we had a couple of some softness last year. What's the magnitude of maybe the comp benefit we should get? What is the timing of that? Then also just what happened in the second quarter, thanks.

32:30

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Sure. The second quarter for us, we were relatively flat year over year. We believe the general market was down, so we believe that our volumes into our sales, revenue dollars represented increased volume, but flat revenue, we believe that we did well in the marketplace, in our position, in the marketplace. When we look forward, what happened last year related to the transition related to the gases and how we refrigerant used in the marketplace and the inventory that has been built up in the channel, and some shocks related to that. We don't see anything like that happening this year. In terms of, I think what we're going to see is a more normalized marketplace. I don't expect large growth right now.

In APH, there's still fundamental drivers for that, but I think really it's on us to create great value products that are able to increase the volumes at our share in the market.

33:34

Chris LeeGlobal Head of Strategic Finance

Look, as we talked about in Tom's prepared remarks, the adoption of our new products via the thermostat via the dehumidification product via the water filtration product continues to be positive, and we're going to continue that MPI focus, as Tom mentioned, and when you combine that with pretty healthy channel inventory, I think we're well positioned.

34:02

Ian ZaffinoAnalyst, Oppenheimer

Okay, and then can you maybe just talk about the fact question, then I always have another question for that, but what are we thinking about as far as comms going into the back half of the year and the comps and that? Also, can you maybe just give us a broader discussion on price versus volume? I know you said that a lot of the gains in the quarter were volume, and there's references to price benefits on the gross margin side. So to try to understand what's actually going on, thanks.

34:32

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Okay, so you broke up a bit there, Ian. I didn't catch all of it, but you were talking about the comps. Yeah, the comps and each that? Second half. Off to who? Correct. Our expected second half versus last year's. Last year. Okay, we expect growth in the second half of the year in our HVAC market in summary. And in the terms of price and volume, looking at that, you made a comment, I just want to correct a perception that you thought that the improvement in gross profitability was because of pricing. I would not say that was a correct assumption. If you look at actually what happened in the prior quarter, price was not a contributor, it would be there too large at all.

35:29

Ian ZaffinoAnalyst, Oppenheimer

Okay, thanks. And then just on the HVAC again, is this a benefit in the third quarter and the fourth quarter? Maybe can you quantify it for us?

35:47

Chris LeeGlobal Head of Strategic Finance

Hey, Ian, I think we provided a guidance in totality. We don't get down to the product level or channel level type of guidance. Look, I think Q3 of last year, those numbers are out there. You can set your estimates on what you think the growth is going to be. But I think what Tom just said is the market is still a little bit muted.

36:10

Ian ZaffinoAnalyst, Oppenheimer

Okay, thank you.

36:19

The next question comes from the line of Tomo Sano with JP Morgan. Your line is now open.

36:28

Tomo SanoAnalyst, JPMorgan

Hello, Tom. Chris, congrats on the spin.

36:28

Chris LeeGlobal Head of Strategic Finance

Thank you.

36:28

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Thank you, Tomo. Thank you. Nice having you.

36:35

Tomo SanoAnalyst, JPMorgan

Could you talk about? Thank you. Thank you very much. Could you talk about P&S growth margin again? If you look at the 70 basis point year over year, could you break down a little bit more color contribution from volume manufacturing, supply chain, executions, productivity, mix and pricing and so on? And Tom, would you believe you did better than expected? Thank you.

37:04

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

We haven't really gone into that level of detail and discussing our margins. I did disclose and just talked about the fact that pricing was not the contributor. The volume itself is a major contributor. If you really look at what happened in the profitability of the business, it was the execution and the efficiency of the conversion costs and the conversion efficiency that drove it for a profit improvement.

The end in the period, there were these inflationary costs that kind of were offset generally by a little bit of tariff refund. Most of the pricing inflationary costs will actually start hitting Q3, Q4. In Q2 though, net net net was somewhat everything offset each other. All these kind of one-time events kind of offset all of it. So we saw pretty, at the net of it, a pretty natural level of gross profitability. And so what really drove the improvement with the efficiency of the operations?

38:27

Tomo SanoAnalyst, JPMorgan

Thank you. And then follow up is pro-channel of health. Tom, if you could talk about pro-channel health, how should we look at a second-quarter performance and the second-half expectations, if you could give a smaller color on actually the pros to retention, install time, reductions, and any color appreciated. Thank you.

38:49

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Sure. The second app, so the pro, I think you're the pro buys through all of the channels that we have. And really, all of our revenue is driven by the pro. We do have some retail products. We believe that the primary customer even at retail is a profession. So I think you're talking about the distribution channels probably more so than the retail channel. We expect in the second half of the year for there to be growth in the distribution channels overall. So I think, you know, we expect continued performance and retail as well. I think the one channel which we mentioned before that we expect the headwinds is that OEM security channel.

39:42

Tomo SanoAnalyst, JPMorgan

Thank you. I appreciate it. That's the answer, but okay, Tom. Nice talking.

39:55

The next question comes from the line of Jay Goldberg with D2D advisory. Your line is now open.

40:04

Jay GoldbergAnalyst, D2D Advisory

I guess thanks for taking my question. I just want to follow up on a few comments that you just on the last question that also you made in prior remarks. I was hoping you give us more color on what you're seeing in the end market. I get that OEM security is not good, but it sounds like some of the other end markets are looking much more positive and I was hoping you could talk about those.

Thanks.

40:27

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Sure. Thanks, Jay. And I also have you on the call. Okay. So, you know, we think the market is kind of being a continuation of what we've seen today. We're not expecting kind of the rising tide for the market to drive our performance. We're going to execute to drive our performance. And so whether it's the housing market, we're certainly not seeing much change in the sales of existing homes. We're not seeing any improvement in the new home construction level. When we look generally into the market of what people are expecting and either HVAC or security market, it's fairly muted. And I think that's probably the best characterization we can put on it right now. Our goal is to out execute the market.

And that's what we're trying to do. And that's what we expect to do in the second half, the lean into the OEM security, the commentary is about a large customer. So, let's not paint the entirety of the opportunity in that channel negatively. It's one customer who's large that we're talking about.

41:44

Jay GoldbergAnalyst, D2D Advisory

Got it. That's it for me. Thank you.

41:44

The next question comes from the line of Dan Strademyer with Jeffries. Your line is now open.

41:56

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Jefferies

Okay. Thanks for the follow-up. Just a question on the OEM customer. Is this a one-off? What's the overall relationship like, I guess, with that customer going forward?

42:09

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Yeah, Dan, this is Tom responding. So, the relationship with the customer, I think, is healthy. I think they just have a different direction. They're going, they're pursuing vertical integration. I think the products that we offer to them are still well accepted in the marketplace. I think they're, they like the product. I think they're just trying to do something different with their own business model. In terms of you asked a little bit about the outlook, like you were trying to understand the trend. You know, this clearly is going to have an impact Q3 somewhat, Q4 more so. And then as we go into kind of Q1 next year, it'll kind of be a little more like the Q3 level.

And then by Q2, we would expect it to kind of plateau. But long term, this is not a strategic business front. This is a lower margin business that's not branded, residual, or first alert, Honeywell Home. It's sold by a third party and it competes in a market where we create our own products. It competes in the general market where it's with our own branded offer. So we expect this to kind of have a little bit of a stair step. We are under contractual obligations to execute with this and we're going to do our best to provide great products to this customer and the relationship is healthy in terms of, you know, how we get along and everything is very positive on that.

There's no problems at all related to that. It's just a strategic decision they've made in how they want to execute their business.

43:54

Chris LeeGlobal Head of Strategic Finance

And just one other point, Dan, just one other point to clarify, this activity that Tom just mentioned is already baked into our medium-term financial targets that we presented at Investor Day.

44:10

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Jefferies

Thank you. So this is sort of separate that from your refresh that I believe is gaining momentum in your security line of branded products. We should think about this as completely separate than that.

44:30

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Totally separate. Yeah, you got it. Totally separate. Understood.

44:39

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Jefferies

Thank you guys. Sorry for the follow-up. I appreciate it.

44:47

Tom SurranPresident, Productions & Solutions

Oh, no, no, that was great. Thank you, Dan.

44:47

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