J.M. Smucker Company (The) (SJM) Q1 2027 earnings call transcript

Transcript, summary, guidance, and what analysts pressed on from the J.M. Smucker Company (The) call on August 26, 2026.

Held
August 26, 2026
Length
45 min
Tone
Confident0.72
Analysts
13
Words
6,391
FY27 tariff refund benefit
~60 cents84 cents in Q1
FY27 Uncrustables growth
High single-digitRaised from mid-single-digit
FY27 debt paydown
About $500 millionThree-times leverage achieved
Underlying COGS inflation
Mid-single-digitExcludes coffee tariffs and refunds
Cups consumed at home
More than 70%Coffee portfolio opportunity
Sweet Baked Snacks back half
Roughly flattishAfter heavier first-half declines

Summary

Management framed the quarter as broad operational momentum, with conservatism concentrated in coffee and investment accelerating Uncrustables capacity.

  • High-single-digit Uncrustables growth replaced the prior mid-single-digit outlook, driven primarily by U.S. retail momentum.
  • $500M$500 million of planned debt paydown was achieved ahead of expectations on leverage, creating flexibility to contemplate repurchases.
  • Coffee list-price reductions were paused because sustained deflation thresholds were unmet; trade promotion is carrying more of the pass-through.
  • Sweet Baked Snacks remained on plan, but management expects first-half declines before a roughly flattish back half.

Guidance

  • ~60 cents FY27 tariff refund benefit
  • High-single-digit FY27 Uncrustables growth
  • Mid-single-digit FY27 underlying COGS inflation
  • First-half Sweet Baked Snacks top-line decline more than low single digits
  • Flattish Sweet Baked Snacks top line in FY27 back half

What analysts pressed on

  • 01Coffee elasticity and volume: management retained prudent assumptions despite recent volume growth and declined to quantify a revised volume outlook.
  • 02Coffee pricing: management declined list-price reductions until sustained deflation crosses thresholds, using promotion instead.
  • 03Capital allocation: management prioritized $500 million debt paydown, then said repurchases could be contemplated after reaching three-times leverage.
  • 04Uncrustables capacity: stronger demand prompted earlier McCalla activation, while management declined to size the brand’s long-term opportunity.
  • 05Sweet Baked Snacks: convenience traffic and SKU rationalization explain weakness, with management offering no specific recovery timing beyond back-half improvement.

Notable disclosures

  • Three-times leverage was reached in Q1, ahead of the planned full-year deleveraging path.
  • Uncrustables growth outlook moved from mid-single digits to high single digits after the billion-dollar milestone.
  • McCalla’s second phase is already built and adds core crimped soft-bread capacity rather than new product formats.
  • Sweet Baked Snacks is expected to decline more in the first two quarters, then turn roughly flattish in the back half.

Risks raised

  • Mid-single-digit underlying cost inflation is running above initial expectations, led by freight, commodities, and ingredients.
  • Coffee commodity volatility and uncertain crop surplus could undermine volume and pricing assumptions.
  • Persistent convenience-store traffic weakness and un-lapped SKU rationalization pressure Hostess.
  • Consumer response to the ongoing dynamic environment remains a potential downside.

Tone: Confident 0.72

The tone was constructive on brand momentum and deleveraging, tempered by coffee caution, cost inflation, and continued Hostess stabilization work.

Who spoke

Company

  • Crystal BeitingInvestor Relations
  • Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer
  • Tucker MarshallChief Financial Officer

Analysts

  • Andrew LazarAnalyst, Barclays
  • Peter GalboAnalyst, Bank of America
  • Tom PalmerAnalyst, J.P. Morgan
  • Robert MoskowAnalyst, TD Cowen
  • Chris CareyAnalyst, Wells Fargo Securities
  • Nik ModiAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets
  • David PalmerAnalyst, Evercore ISI
  • Max GumportAnalyst, BNP Paribas
  • Peter GromAnalyst, UBS
  • Steve PowersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank
  • Scott MarksAnalyst, Jefferies
  • Alexia HowardAnalyst, Bernstein
  • Rob DickersonAnalyst, US Bancorp

Full transcript

Analyst questions are marked with a bar. Timestamps are into the recording.

Prepared remarks

00:00

Good morning, and welcome to the J. M. Smucker Company's Fiscal 2027 First Quarter Earnings Question and Answer Session. This conference call is being recorded, and all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Please limit yourselves to two questions and re-queue if you have additional questions.

00:17

Crystal BeitingInvestor Relations

I will now turn the conference call over to Crystal Biting, Vice President, Investor Relations, Financial Planning and Analysis. Thank you. You may begin. Good morning, and thank you for joining our fiscal 2027 first quarter earnings question and answer session. I hope everyone had a chance to review our results as detailed in this morning's press release and management's prepared remarks, which are available on our corporate website at jmsmucker. com. We will also post an audio replay of this call at the conclusion of this morning's Q&A session. During today's call, we may make forward-looking statements that reflect our current expectations about future plans and performance. These statements rely on assumptions and estimates, and actual results could differ materially due to risks and uncertainties.

Additionally, we use non-GAAP results to evaluate performance internally. I encourage you to read the full disclosure concerning forward-looking statements and details on our non-GAAP measures in this morning's Participating on this call are Mark Smucker, Chief Executive Officer, President and Chair of the Board, and Tucker Marshall, Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Frozen Handheld and Spreads and Sweetbaked Snacks.

Questions and answers

01:29

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

We will now open the call for questions. Operator, please queue up the first question.

01:35

Thank you. The question and answer session will begin at this time. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset before pressing any numbers. Should you have a question, please press star 1 on your telephone. If you wish to withdraw your question, please press star 2. For operator assistance, please press star 0. As a reminder, please lend yourselves to two questions during the question and answer session. Should you have additional questions, you may re-queue, and the company will take questions as time allows. Please stand by for the first question.

02:06

Andrew LazarAnalyst, Barclays

Our first question is coming from Andrew Lazar from Barclays. Your line is now live. Great. Thanks so much. Good morning, everybody. Morning. As I understand it, it looks like you received an 84-cent tariff refund benefit in Fiscal 1Q and anticipate about a 60-cent benefit for the full year net of some incremental costs and spend-back. I was wondering if you were able to give us a better sense of what is incorporated in that sort of 24-cent differential in SD&A. I guess how much is higher admin expenses for the build-out of McCalla versus Is it higher brand spend or something else?

02:40

Tucker MarshallChief Financial Officer

Andrew, good morning. Yes, we did receive an 84-cent benefit from tariff refunds in our first quarter, and we are choosing to reinvest a portion of that in SDNA expenses, largely coming through administrative expense, along with some incremental marketing spend and advancing pre-production expenses associated with our McCullough, Alabama facility, all in support of the Uncrustables brand. And then acknowledging, too, that we would use the balance of earnings or cash to pay down debt.

03:17

Andrew LazarAnalyst, Barclays

Got it. Okay. Okay, thank you for that. And then you're still looking for coffee volume to decrease for the full year by low single digits. And I just wanted to explore this a bit more just because you've seen coffee volume actually increase despite the higher pricing more recently. So I guess with the understanding that elasticity has been modest as prices went up, why would we expect volume to weaken even as coffee shelf prices moderate from here? And maybe it's just conservatism at this point, but just curious on that. Thanks so much.

03:48

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Andrew, it's Mark. Thanks for the question. You know, you are correct. Because the commodity has continued to be very volatile, which particularly this time of year is not unusual, We just feel that it's prudent, given not only the commodity but category dynamics and the consumer environment, to just think about the coffee business from a prudent perspective. I would highlight that, as you pointed out, great results in the quarter on all three of our key brands with Bustelo growing, supported by the Game Face campaign around soccer, and then Dunkin' having relative pricing in line with where it needs to be. All of that has been supportive, but it's just, again, making sure that we're thinking about the go-forward from a prudent perspective.

04:48

Andrew LazarAnalyst, Barclays

Got it. Yep. Makes sense. Thanks so much.

04:52

Thank you.

04:52

Peter GalboAnalyst, Bank of America

Next question is coming from Peter Galbo from Bank of America. Your line is now live. Hey, good morning, Mark and Tucker. Thanks for the questions. If I could pick up on coffee, I think there are quite a bit of investor questions just around how you're thinking about the recent run-up on, I guess, more speculative nature of Super El Nino at this point. And, you know, there was a change in terms of how you have the outlook for the year on the pricing side to actually expecting less of a headwind on coffee price for the year to go, I think, than previously.

Just how, you know, kind of the recent move in coffee prices are impacting that decision. Had you planned a larger list price decrease, now you're pulling back on trade promotion. Just any additional detail on how we might think about the price piece as it relates to coffee.

05:48

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Peter, it's Mark. So, as I just mentioned, you know, this time of year and obviously speculation around weather and so forth is not unusual. And we had contemplated a list price decline at the end of the fiscal and wanted to just acknowledge that the commodity, the base commodity is down versus last year. But we have not crossed key thresholds that would actually justify, nor have we seen sustained deflation at this point. So having not crossed key thresholds, we won't take a list price decline at this point. But we have passed along some of that deflation to consumers in the form of trade using those levers, which is pretty normal. You know, we will continue to watch the crop.

The indications are having essentially finished the harvest that the crop is healthy and there could be a surplus. But at this point, since we have not seen that flow through, we'll just, you know, pause and continue to watch where the commodity goes and, again, take a prudent approach.

07:11

Peter GalboAnalyst, Bank of America

Great. Thanks for that, Mark. Very clear and helpful. Tucker, I noticed that in the prepared remarks, you reinserted maybe a bit more forcefully commentary around share repurchase, just given where the leverage has landed, some of that being tied to, obviously, the tariff refund. But maybe it felt intentional. So just curious if you can expand a little bit on potential for share repurchase, what we might be able to see It seems like potentially this year, which again seems like a bit of a pull forward. So I'll leave it there. Thanks very much.

07:48

Tucker MarshallChief Financial Officer

Peter, good morning. You know, we remain committed to a balanced capital deployment model where we can reinvest in the business and also return capital to shareholders. So we are on the journey to pay down about $500 million of debt this year and achieve the three times leverage ratio, which candidly we did in this first quarter. So we're a little ahead of expectations, and we remain committed to the quarterly dividend, which we recently announced an increase, and we now have the flexibility to begin contemplating share repurchases as we move forward.

08:31

Thank you.

08:31

Tom PalmerAnalyst, J.P. Morgan

My next question is coming from Tom Palmer from J. P. Morgan. Your line is now live. Good morning. Thanks for the question. Maybe just to start out, I wanted to clarify some of the COGS inflation commentary. I think it's still mid-single digits, but 100 basis points higher than previously. How much of this is just related to coffee versus other costs moving around, such as freight?

08:57

Tucker MarshallChief Financial Officer

Yeah, we are experiencing mid-single-digit inflation as you isolate the effects of green coffee tariffs and tariff refunds. And when you think of that sort of underlying mid-single-digit inflation, we're seeing an increase from our initial expectations coming into the year, largely driven by freight and some commodity and other ingredients. And that's been factored into our guidance for the balance of the year.

09:30

Tom PalmerAnalyst, J.P. Morgan

Okay. Thank you. And then I wanted to ask on the frozen handheld and spread segment, we have seen stronger margins the last couple quarters. There's also, I know, the planned startup costs here and I think maybe higher marketing.

09:47

Tucker MarshallChief Financial Officer

I guess, how sustainable do you think about the margins we've been seeing lately in this business, and at what point do we really start to see the pre-production costs that McAllen become a factor?

Yeah, we delivered a nice first quarter, both from a top-line momentum standpoint and also the profitability flowed through as well. As we think about the business, we continue to support growth. We now expect sort of high single-digit growth for the Uncrustables brand, Total Company, Total Venture. And as we move forward, we'll continue to support the portfolio with ongoing marketing advancements and also ensuring that we continue to bring production along as we support demand.

And as you can see, or you may have read, we are increasing pre-production expenses for the year in support of the McCullough, Alabama facility. And so the margin profile may take a slight step back in our next few quarters, but the profile continues to remain strong.

10:48

Tom PalmerAnalyst, J.P. Morgan

Understood. Thank you.

10:51

Thank you.

10:51

Robert MoskowAnalyst, TD Cowen

The next question is coming from Robert Moscow from TD Cal. Your line is now live. Hey, thank you. Maybe I'll ask about retail pet food. I think you have volume mix for dog snacks flat but milk bone volume mix was positive Can you tell me a little bit more about how you trying to manage that overall dog snacks business which has been kind of challenged Do you have any new views on kind of the tail brands like Puparoni and things like that They've been a drag. Do you have any specific actions to try to stabilize them, or could there be portfolio change longer term? Mark.

11:41

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Sure, Rob. It's Mark. Actually, really solid quarter on dog snacks, and in particular, pepperoni. We still feel that the category of dog snacks is a great one, so we do want to continue to participate with the brands we have. Pepperoni was up 5% in net sales and 7%, so it was a strong quarter, largely driven by some brand refat, Fresh, sharper marketing, and some specific events at some of our larger customers that were helpful.

And then Milk Bone also had a good quarter, returning it to volume growth that was supported by innovation, winning in the soft and chewy segment, good marketing there. I think we've said in quarters past that we continue to focus on continuing to stabilize the biscuit segment through messaging around dog enjoyment and functional benefits. So more to come on that, but ultimately very positive on the dog snacks category.

And then it goes without saying we had a solid quarter on cat food as well.

12:59

Robert MoskowAnalyst, TD Cowen

Okay. Pardon me for getting the brands wrong. So were any of the snack brands down then? Because if pepperoni is up and Milk Bone is up, then there must be something else down.

13:17

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Jerky Treats was down.

13:20

Robert MoskowAnalyst, TD Cowen

Okay. All right. Thank you.

13:24

Thank you.

13:24

Chris CareyAnalyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Next question is coming from Chris Carey from Wells Fargo Security. Your line is now live. Hi, good morning, everybody. Thank you for the question. Good morning.

I wanted to ask about, you know, expectations going into fiscal Q2. Quite a sharp reversal. Yet it feels like momentum is good on frozen handheld. Comps get easier. You know, similar dynamic on pet away from home is doing well. I'll be supported by Incrustables. Is this just a substantial reversal on coffee in Q2, or is the sweet baked snacks business expected to get worse going into Q2? Can you just help frame the outlook going into the next quarter and some of the key drivers in the Delta relative to the run rates that you're at right post-Q1?

14:23

Tucker MarshallChief Financial Officer

Yeah, Chris, we do believe that there is ongoing business momentum as we head into our second quarter, and we continue to acknowledge that Coffee had great volume delivery in the first quarter, and that we are being very prudent in our volume assumptions in the next nine months on that portfolio. We're also sort of reversing a contemplated list price decline and bringing back the promotional activity to get to those right price points within coffee.

We see ongoing momentum in the frozen handheld and spreads portfolio, largely driven by the Uncrustables sandwich. And then really the rest of the businesses are doing what we anticipated coming into this fiscal year. And so we believe that Q2 really is coming in line with sort of the expectations and has enabled us to support sort of our guidance revision for the year.

15:28

Chris CareyAnalyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Okay, thank you. And on the Sweet Baked Snacks business specifically, was Q1 more or less in line with your expectations? I don't know why it felt maybe a touch light on the top line, but I think even in that response just now, you had suggested that the business is supposed to still running roughly in line with your expectations. Just give us a sense of where you see the business from a top line standpoint and also margins where there's been a bit of volatility in your ability to have more visibility into the segment. And, you know, just slightly connected, and apologies for, you know, I guess the third one here, but how are you thinking about broader portfolio?

You've been nimble about making decisions when required. I just wonder what the current state of affairs is, you know, as you digest, you know, your current lineup. Thanks so much.

16:27

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Chris, it's Mark. The performance on Hostess in the quarter was essentially right where we expected it to be. So making progress on the stabilization journey, recognizing the journey itself is, you know, it's slow and steady. But we do feel good about the progress we made. And there were a couple bright spots. Honestly, Donets has been performing really well, outperforming particularly in the larger bag size, as well as some innovation on like the mini churro donuts.

Also, you know, the morning time occasion seems to be very strong, and that performance on Donets was supported largely in the U. S. retail channels. We do recognize that the convenience channel as a whole continues to be challenged in terms of traffic, and we have not lapped skew rationalization. So that might be a little bit of what you're seeing, but we do.

And then some innovation, like on Suzy Q's also performing well. So a couple bright spots, and then our goal is just to continue to make incremental progress quarter over quarter.

17:48

Chris CareyAnalyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Okay. Thank you. Thanks.

17:56

Thank you.

17:56

Nik ModiAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Next question today is coming from Nick Modi from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now live. Yeah, thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just a couple of questions. One is just on coffee. When you think about, you know, what's going on between the out-of-home and in-home, it seems like while higher-income consumers are certainly enjoying themselves, I'm just wondering if, Mark, do you think there's a marketing opportunity, kind of a value, kind of conscious message that you can kind of be more aggressive with just to capture some of those consumers? I just wanted to get your thoughts on that, and then I have a second question.

18:37

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Nick, I like that point. I do think there's an opportunity, and we've been pretty consistent in talking about this. More than 70% of cups consumed are consumed at home, and the fact that our portfolio meets a variety of value points for the consumer. And so we agree with you. We do think that will continue to be an opportunity.

I would note Folgers, being one of our more affordable brands, had some great performance around America 250. There was some specific SKUs that we supported over the holiday period in July. And so I appreciate the feedback.

19:30

Nik ModiAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. Great. Helpful. And then I guess the – this one's kind of an off-the-wall question, but, you know, some observations from recent trade shows in the pet space would suggest devices are really – apps and devices are really the big kind of growth drivers, right? I think treats have been under pressure, dog has been under pressure. And it just looks like with all kind of the AI enablement and kind of tracking your pet's health more in real time, I'm just curious, now that leverage is where it is, you know, like, how do you think about capital allocation in the pet space? And is that something you've ever thought about?

20:07

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Well, it's a good question. Strategically, we have considered over time where can we play and where can we win, and I would say our priority is going to remain on consumables, things that dogs eat and cats eat. So, not that we wouldn't continue to think about that, but I would say right now it's really focused on dog snacks and cat food.

20:44

Nik ModiAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. I'll pass it on. Thank you so much.

20:48

Thank you.

20:48

David PalmerAnalyst, Evercore ISI

Next question is coming from David Palmer from Evercore ISI. Your light is now live. Thanks. Good morning. And you know, fiscal 27 is already going to be an investment year. And now it looks like you have the ability to lean in a little bit more, maybe 10 to 20 million more, I guess, as of this morning. I'm wondering, you know, I think people are used to feeling good about investment spend because they think that easy comparisons on that spend next year just increases visibility. But I think that people are equally doubtful that there's going to be a return on investment from gross spending in the food space. And I know you're leaning in on, or you've in the past said you're leaning in on Incrustables, dog treats, and peanut butter.

Incrustables is crushing it. I wonder if you could give some detail on the types of spending you're making on those big three, And maybe if the incremental isn't going into those, what you're spending that on and have a follow-up.

21:58

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Dave, it's Mark. Yeah, we have been very disciplined in terms of where we spend dollars. And we have tools that enable us to evaluate how much bang for the buck we get and where we're going to get incremental ROI. I am a CEO of the J. M. Smucker Companyoli, and with Katie Williams on board as our new chief marketing officer, she brings to bear also a lot of expertise in that area, along with all of our marketers that support each of our brands. I feel pretty confident that we can be choiceful and prudent with the dollars and put them where we actually going to get a meaningful return And, you know, when we look at the dog treats data, peanut butter data, those are two areas that I would say you're going to want to stabilize going into next year.

23:00

David PalmerAnalyst, Evercore ISI

Is there a sort of cadence that we should be looking at for improvement in those two areas, if those are two of the three, in any sort of color about what you're doing with Uncrustables and the frozen-to-thought product that seems to be working? Thanks.

23:20

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Dave, we remain committed to advancing all of our brands. And as you noted in Dog Treats, it's important for us to continue to build the brand Milk Bone and continue to advance its relevance in the treating occasion. And we will continue to do that. And it's certainly in our plans and has been an objective since we stepped into this fiscal year. It's important that we demonstrate our leadership in the spreads category, in particular with peanut butter and fruit. And then as you think about Uncrustables, it continues to be a great story. It's going to demonstrate another year of growth. It continues to demonstrate growth in traditional U. S. retail channels and also in the away-from-home channel.

We're also acknowledging that we're bringing along innovation. We're supporting brand building, and we are increasing capacity and support of ongoing demand. So it continues to be a good story, and much of what you're asking is built into our outlook and is a part of our, you know, so to speak, blocking and tackling as we build these brands and deliver organic growth.

24:26

David PalmerAnalyst, Evercore ISI

Great. Thank you. Thanks.

24:30

Thank you.

24:30

Max GumportAnalyst, BNP Paribas

Next question today is coming from Max Comport from B&P Parabody. Your line is out live. Thanks for the question. First, I just wanted to go back to Uncrustables. There has been a very clear reacceleration in track channel data. So I was hoping you could talk about consumer and retailer reception you're seeing with regards to the fridge-friendly conversion and also how the innovation that you come out with is performing. Thanks very much. Max, thanks for the question.

24:57

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

It's a great follow-on from David. Yeah, Uncrustables, I would sum it up this way. All the fundamentals are right. In other words, we've got new marketing, the launch of fridge-friendly, so obviously you can keep the Uncrustables thawed in your fridge for five days. So instant consumption, if you will. Price pack architecture is right. So just competitively, I think we're sort of in the sweet spot there. The breadth of our offerings, whether that's new flavors, some of those flavors are limited time offerings. Obviously, hitting on day parts with the higher protein offerings as well.

And so just the combination of all of those things has led to also stronger distribution gains and our way-from-home business is performing well, still building out our C-store presence with the larger chain customers. So I would just say it's a tale of just doing all of the important things right.

26:20

Max GumportAnalyst, BNP Paribas

Great. And then a follow-up on coffee. I'm hearing your commentary about how you paused the list price cut plans and you're choosing instead to lean more into promotional activity. I'm just curious on Folger specifically, we are seeing the exact opposite dynamics in terms of seeing actually non-promoted list prices come down in recent weeks, and then promotional activity, both in terms of frequency and depth of promotion, actually get pulled back in recent weeks. So just curious how we should be reading the data for Folger, whether this is maybe just some weekly volatility or if there's anything else going on. Thanks very much.

27:02

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Yeah, our comment around just the promotional is really thinking about the full year, right? And so, you know, we have, because it's a pass-through category, wanting to make sure that customers and consumers are benefiting from a deflationary commodity, even if we're not crossing thresholds that would dictate a list price decline. So it's a bit of both, right? There is some opportunity to hold prices at a slightly lower level, but also enhance promotions.

And Max acknowledged that in the first quarter, soldiers did grow, and it effectively was sort of in line with flattish vol mix. And we continue to be very prudent in our volume mix assumptions for the coffee portfolio as we move forward. And we've been taking that approach consistently over the last several fiscal years.

Okay.

28:08

Max GumportAnalyst, BNP Paribas

Thanks very much. Thanks, Max.

28:12

Thank you.

28:12

Peter GromAnalyst, UBS

Next question is coming from Peter Grom from UBS. Your line is now live. Great. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I wanted to have to follow up on the two big snacks. I mean, the commentaries and suggestions question was helpful. But I'm just curious from the key source standpoint, how much of the research is really... Sorry, Peter.

28:32

We're having... Peter, sorry to interrupt you. We're just having a tough time hearing you. You sound very muffled.

28:39

Peter GromAnalyst, UBS

Is this any better? That is better. Thank you. Yeah, so sorry about that. So I wanted to just follow up on sweet baked snacks. I guess I'm just trying to understand the C-store pressure. How much of it is the traffic dynamic you mentioned versus kind of lapping of the SKU rationalization? And then, you know, you reiterated plans for stabilization. The quarter was in line with your expectations. So in that context, how should we think about top line performance evolving from here?

29:08

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

I'll start. The traffic dynamic seems to be somewhat persistent. It's hard to really pin down exactly what's driving it, but I would submit that gas prices are part of that, right, where folks are filling up their tanks but not necessarily continuing on into the store. I think that is part of the dynamic on the traffic. So I do think we are maybe cautiously optimistic that an improvement or reduction in prices at the pump might lead to better traffic, but I think it remains to be seen.

And with respect to the top line, on a four-year basis, we're probably advancing that business to being down low single digits, and that was as expected as anticipated. Your first two quarters are going to be down more than that, largely driven by lapping the skew rationalization of a year ago, and therefore your back half is going to feel more flattish in terms of the cadence of top line flow.

30:27

Peter GromAnalyst, UBS

So that's very helpful. And then maybe pivoting to peanut butter and spreads, you know, still under a bit of pressure here. So can you maybe just unpack what you're seeing from a category standpoint and then, you know, as well as from a market share perspective? And then you touch on some of the actions you're taking around the GIF brand. So kind of curious how you see performance evolving from here.

Sure, Peter.

30:54

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Sure. So we do still, you know, we're confident in our spreads business, both peanut butter and fruit spreads. We do consider them, if you think holistically, with our frozen handheld, right? You know, PB&J sandwiches, it's all part of the same occasion in many cases. And the softness in peanut butter in the category we don't believe is structural. And we still have, you know, a lot of activity on JIF. We recently have refreshed the packaging on the brand. We just launched some new marketing that's only a few weeks in market that is really focused on expanding usage occasions, largely around snacking. It's pretty heavy on social right now, but there will be some broadcast media there as well.

And so continuing just to lead with brand building and share a voice is important. And then addressing consumer trends like shorter ingredient decks. We just launched GIF Simply, which is actually performing very well. It's a two to three ingredient offerings of GIF, right? Very simple formulas. And then we also have four of the top five natural brands. So we still feel very good about peanut butter and then fruit spreads. We have acknowledged there's been some competitive activity, but we're at the beginning stages of a brand refresh on fruit spreads as well, starting with packaging, and that is going to extend over a couple years.

32:38

Peter GromAnalyst, UBS

Great. Thank you so much. I'll pass it on.

32:40

Thank you.

32:40

Steve PowersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Next question is coming from Steve Powers from Deutsche Bank. Your line is now live. Hey, great. Thank you very much. Good morning. I wanted to ask actually on the transformation office, there was something that you called out in June as a contributor to the 27 earnings algorithm. I didn't see an update on productivity in today's release and related comments, just Maybe an update on how you're thinking about productivity and maybe the pipeline that's building, even as we think about beyond 27.

33:19

Tucker MarshallChief Financial Officer

Yes, Steve, good morning. We continue to see benefits from our transformation office. The excellent work that the teams continue to do, deliver cost and productivity, and also advanced ways of working, it very much resonates in our P&L. And it also supportive in terms of helping deliver earnings It supportive in helping offset cost inflation And it also supportive in reinvesting in key platforms of the company You know Rob under his leadership now he will continue to advance the transformation efforts We will provide updates over time And likely in future events and forums we can continue to bring you and others along in those efforts Okay very good Thank you And if I could ask another follow on Uncrustables the strength seems broad I just curious if there are particular pockets whether retail away from home et cetera where the business is particularly ahead of your expectations more so than others And is it that demand side of the equation that's prompted you to accelerate phase two of McCullough, or is it just the mere fact that you have a little bit more financial flexibility to accelerate it?

34:39

Steve PowersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Just curious as to the drivers of that decision. Thank you.

34:43

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Steve, we continue to be pleased with the momentum on that brand. Uncrustable is coming into the fiscal year, total company, total venture. We had an outlook of sort of mid-single digits after achieving the billion-dollar ambition last fiscal year. We've increased that outlook to sort of high single digits, really largely driven through the U. S. retail channels, but also acknowledging away-from-home channel as well has improved. And our ability to continue to support the growth in that business, we have made the decision to advance some pre-production expenses to start up capacity earlier in McCall, Alabama.

35:24

Steve PowersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Very good. Thank you so much. Thanks.

35:28

Thank you.

35:28

Scott MarksAnalyst, Jefferies

Next question is coming from Scott Marks from Jeffries. Your line is now live. Hey, good morning, all. Thanks very much for taking your questions. And I wanted to just ask about something that was noted in the prepared remarks as you were talking about the frozen handheld and spread business. I think you actually said you had lower marketing spend in the quarter. So wondering if you can help us understand why that was the case. And then, you know, as you think about the incremental marketing spend for the rest of the year, it sounds like, you know, a crustable is one area where you're going to put some of this incremental spend. So I'm wanting to just help us understand that dynamic as well.

Thanks.

36:09

Tucker MarshallChief Financial Officer

Yeah, in the quarter, Frozen Hand-Owned Spreads has a little bit of lower marketing spend. That was largely driven by the timing of GIF, but we've remained committed to the marketing spend for the full year.

36:24

Scott MarksAnalyst, Jefferies

Okay, clear. And then just as we think about the Uncrustable brand, you made a number of comments about, you know, increased expectations for the year. Gary's commented on some of the areas for growth there. As we sit here today, do you have kind of a size of the prize, let's say, for that brand in terms of what you think your total addressable market could be for that? How big could that brand get? And for how many years do you see mid-to-high single-digit growth as we look out from today? Thanks.

37:00

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Scott, it's Mark. We have not made any statements about how far beyond a billion we believe the brand can go. I think we're just right now focused on continuing to deliver. As time goes on, we may update our projections, but having come into the year, as Tucker just highlighted, with mid-single and now seeing some momentum, That is largely driven by all of our fundamentals being right and then just continuing to invest behind the brand. But I would just pause on making any future projections, but very, very comfortable with confidence in the continued growth of that brand and there being some really nice runway ahead, both in household penetration and just addressable market.

37:58

Scott MarksAnalyst, Jefferies

Appreciate it. Thanks.

38:02

Thank you.

38:02

Alexia HowardAnalyst, Bernstein

Next question is coming from Alexia Howard from Burr Senior Line. Is that live? Good morning, everyone. Good morning. Can I start focusing on Cafe Bustelo? I mean, it's obviously had incredible momentum over the last few years. 23% growth this quarter is obviously still incredibly impressive, although it's a bit of a slowdown, I think, from where we were a couple of quarters ago. So are there still distribution opportunities? My understanding is that it's still fairly concentrated regionally in the U. S. Would you expect this kind of momentum to continue out to the foreseeable future?

Alexia, thank you for that question. Bustelo has been a rocket ship, and I would note that almost every quarter there's been double-digit growth.

38:55

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Sometimes it's been a little bit lumpy, so I wouldn't necessarily take the 23% as necessarily a slowdown, but there's a ton of runway on Bustelo. We do aspire. It's now a number six brand in the category. We aspire to get it into the top four. As you point out, there is distribution expansion opportunities. We continue to expand the brand in central and western regions.

We've launched new roast profiles. Those have performed very well. And then recently, just some other ready-to-drink options. And so the authentic Latin heritage of that brand has really unlocked something unique with Gen Z and millennial consumers that are looking for something that's a little different. And I would say I mentioned our Game Face marketing campaign around the soccer event during the summer that really helped to drive sales as well. So just a really exciting brand that we continue to invest in.

40:14

Alexia HowardAnalyst, Bernstein

Great. Thank you very much. And as a follow-up, can I just ask more broadly, what are the key sort of puts and takes or uncertainties, both that could surprise positively or negatively, as we look out through the rest of 27? It sounds as though there might be a bit of conservatism on coffee volumes, understandably. Obviously, where coffee input costs is kind of an unknown at this point. But if you had to prioritize freight costs, obviously, we don't know where those are headed.

40:43

Tucker MarshallChief Financial Officer

If you had to prioritize the top sort of things that could surprise positively or negatively, what would those be?

Alexia, you know, we feel that our top line and bottom line guidance ranges are balanced. But as you think about opportunities, it would be ongoing momentum in your coffee portfolio where we've been conservative on volume mix assumptions.

Better than expected sort of volume assumptions across your frozen handheld portfolio. Maybe better than anticipated sort of expectations in your pet portfolio as well. I think some of the downside would be consumers' reaction to the ongoing dynamic environment by which they live. I think also you've got the ongoing cost inflation environment that we continue to navigate as well would be another area of potential downside.

But those would be the drivers to the up and maybe some of the drivers to the down.

41:48

Alexia HowardAnalyst, Bernstein

Perfect. Thank you so much. I'll pass it on.

41:50

Thank you.

41:50

Rob DickersonAnalyst, US Bancorp

Our next question is coming from Rob Dickerson from US Bank Corp. Your line is now live. Great. Thanks so much. There's just a question on Uncrustables and the new facility. You know, is the new facility, and you might have stated this before, and I just don't remember, so apologies if so, but is the new facility just adding kind of, you know, standard issue capacity to kind of do with the brand?

What you've already done with the brand, or is there anything within this build that could add other variations? The product, the brand overlay, I don't know, thinking of like a mini muffin equivalent, right? Like uncrustable minis that kids can take back to school with a big back to school activation next year or something like that. That's all. Thanks.

42:43

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Hey, Rob, it's Mark. The this phase of the Alabama facility, it's a second phase. It's already been built out. Basically, turning it on requires us to staff it, right, and then activate it. But it is focused on base, our core format of crimped soft bread uncrustables.

43:08

Rob DickersonAnalyst, US Bancorp

Okay, fair enough. And then I guess just a lot of questions have been asked. So thinking through kind of the next few months, obviously we're essentially already in the back to school period and then we go into Halloween, fall bake. Is there anything just to give you the opportunity to kind of note of like strategy into back to school, very broadly speaking? We have some products we will be pushing more right around the back school period. There's activation on different flavor on, I don't know, Hostess and Halloween, anything like that just that we should be aware of. Thanks.

43:48

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

Nothing specific to call out, but a resounding yes in terms of making sure that we are taking advantage of the key promotional periods, holidays, and so forth. So, you know, we'll, as stuff comes into market, we'll be sure to point that out to you guys.

44:10

Rob DickersonAnalyst, US Bancorp

All right, great. Thanks so much, Mark.

44:14

Thank you.

44:14

Mark SmuckerChief Executive Officer

I will now turn the conference call back to management to conclude. Thank you for joining us this morning. As we have shared in our prepared remarks, Our fiscal year 2027 first quarter results highlight the strength of our differentiated portfolio, disciplined execution against our strategic priorities, and the investments we continue to make in our brands and capabilities. Our strategy is working, and the strong foundation we have established gives us confidence in our ability to deliver long-term growth and increase shareholder value. We hope many of you will be able to join us in Boston at the Barclays Global Consumer Staples Conference in two weeks.

A live webcast of our presentation on September 8th at 12.45 p. m. Eastern can also be accessed from our Investor Relations website. Have a great day.

45:14

Everyone, this concludes our conference call for today. Thank you all for participating and have a nice day. All parties may now disconnect.

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