Paycom Software (PAYC) Q2 2026 earnings call transcript

Transcript, summary, guidance, and what analysts pressed on from the Paycom Software, Inc. call on August 5, 2026.

Held
August 5, 2026
Length
45 min
Tone
Confident0.84
Analysts
10
Words
6,578
2026 revenue guidance
$2.197 billion to $2.212 billion7% to 8% year-over-year growth
2026 recurring revenue growth
8% to 9%
2026 adjusted EBITDA
$1.007 billion to $1.022 billion46% margin at midpoint
2026 free cash flow
exceed $650 million
2026 client-funds interest
approximately $105 millioncurrent rates held
2026 CapEx
approximately 6%
2026 GAAP tax rate
29%
First-half shares repurchased
nearly 11 millionshares outstanding reduced 20%

Summary

Management framed the first half as evidence that automation is lifting growth and margins, while emphasizing broad-based demand and stronger execution rather than one-off factors.

  • New products released in the last three months contributed little to Q2, but management expects greater contributions ahead.
  • 4XProject Arc was Paycom’s largest system-wide release, with one client reporting 4X system performance improvement.
  • Management said strong pipelines and faster new-rep ramping support future bookings, while avoiding quantified pipeline or productivity targets.

Guidance

  • $2.197B2026 total revenue $2.197 billion to $2.212 billion, or 7% to 8% year-over-year growth
  • 8%2026 recurring and other revenue growth 8% to 9% year over year
  • $105M2026 interest on funds held for clients approximately $105 million, assuming current rates hold
  • $1.007B2026 adjusted EBITDA $1.007 billion to $1.022 billion; 46% margin at midpoint
  • $650M2026 free cash flow expected to exceed $650 million
  • 6%2026 CapEx approximately 6%
  • 29%2026 GAAP tax rate 29%; non-GAAP tax rate 27%
  • 3%2026 stock-based compensation 3% of revenues

What analysts pressed on

  • 01Bookings: Q2 came in as expected; management said pipelines remain strong but did not quantify them.
  • 02Sales productivity: new reps are ramping faster, while many remain in training and more than 100 newer reps add headcount.
  • 03Capital allocation: management did not commit to a buyback pace, citing opportunistic repurchases and strong free-cash-flow generation.
  • 04AI and I-1 adoption: management cited continued uptake but gave no usage or adoption metrics, emphasizing accuracy over novelty.
  • 05Client mix and deal size: management said client-size profile was unchanged and did not confirm higher module counts or average deal sizes.
  • 06Employment and rates: management assumed stable client employment and said rate changes would have minimal impact this year.

Notable disclosures

  • $100M$100 million of 2025 data-center investment is expected to generate about $100 million in 2026 R&D savings and at least $30 million in avoided third-party I-1 response fees.
  • 20%Nearly 11 million shares repurchased in the first half reduced shares outstanding by 20%; the company ended Q2 with approximately 44 million shares.
  • 4XProject Arc was described as the largest system-wide release in company history, with one 10,000-plus-employee client reporting 4X performance improvement.
  • Asset management expands Paycom into what management called an entirely new multi-billion-dollar TAM; it was released only weeks before the call.

Risks raised

  • New products launched in the last three months were not meaningful contributors to Q2, and future contributions were not quantified.
  • Bookings were as expected, but management did not confirm an inflection and said new-rep productivity takes time to build.
  • 2026 interest revenue guidance assumes current rates hold; management said rate changes would have minimal impact this year.
  • Management said labor efficiency has limits because developing, selling, converting, and servicing businesses retain a strong human component.

Tone: Confident 0.84

Management expressed confidence in raising full-year outlook, citing broad-based demand, automation efficiencies, strong pipelines, and accelerating rep productivity.

Who spoke

Company

  • James SamfordInvestor Relations
  • Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors
  • Shane HadlockPresident and Chief Client Officer
  • Robert FosterChief Financial Officer

Analysts

  • Steve EndersAnalyst, Citibank
  • Jason CelinoAnalyst, KeyBanc
  • Jared LevineAnalyst, TD Cowen
  • Daniel JesterAnalyst, BMO Capital Markets
  • Jacob SmithAnalyst, Guggenheim
  • Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Barclays
  • Samad SamanaAnalyst, Jefferies
  • Kevin McVeighAnalyst, UBS
  • Patrick O'NeillAnalyst, Wolfe Research
  • Mark MarconAnalyst, Baird

Full transcript

Analyst questions are marked with a bar. Timestamps are into the recording.

Prepared remarks

00:00

Good afternoon. My name is Hillary and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Paycom's second quarter, 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star one again. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to James Samford, Head of Investor Relations. You may begin.

00:36

James SamfordInvestor Relations

Thank you and welcome to Paycom's earnings conference call for the second quarter of 2026. Certain statements made on this call that are not historical facts, including those related to our future plans, objectives, and expected performance are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements represent our outlook only as of the date of this conference call. While we believe any forward-looking statements made on this call are reasonable, actual results may differ materially because the statements are based on our current expectations and subject to risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in our filings with the ICC, including our most recent annual report on Form 10K. You should refer to and consider these factors when relying on such forward-looking information.

Any forward-looking statement made speaks only out of the data on which it is made, and we do not undertake and expressly disclaim any obligation to update or alter our forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by applicable law. Also during today's call, we will refer to certain non-GAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA, non-GAP net income, and certain adjusted expenses. We use these non-GAP financial measures to review and assess our performance and for planning purposes. A reconciliation schedule showing GAP versus non-GAP results is included in the press release that we issued after the close of the market today, and is available on our website at investors. paycom.

com. I will now turn the call over to Chad Richardson, Pecone's founder and CEO. Chad?

02:08

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Thanks, James, and thank you to everyone joining our call today. I'll briefly comment on some of the new product launches and achievements so far this year. Then I will pass the call over to our president, Shane Hadlock, and then Bob will review our second quarter results and pull your guidance. We will then take questions. Let's get started. We delivered another solid quarter with results coming in ahead of expectations.

The benefit of our software's full solution automation, coupled with world-class service, continue to drive industry leading ROI, which is resonating in the market. With our strong first half results, we are well positioned to exceed our initial 2026 plan on both a revenue and profitability basis. Demand for automation is increasing and our platform remains the most intelligent solution in the industry. Thanks to our early focus on data integrity and consolidation, we continue to expand our automation capabilities with AI and automated decisioning to deliver even more value to our clients. Earlier this year, we announced the release of our career and succession planning solution, and we are seeing solid client adoption.

This is another automated product that equips leaders with the solution to more easily identify and develop talent, ensuring organizations are better prepared for the future. With this product, organizations have reliable data to discover workforce talent gaps and assess talent readiness, a client of ours with over 500 employees who is already using our performance and take on learning products, added career and succession planning, and for the first time, they have all key positions and successors identified. They were very pleased with how quickly they could identify leadership gaps and fill them with people who were developed to step into the roles.

Clients are thrilled with this new functionality and the automation it creates for career development and succession. In July, we released our latest automated product asset management. This solution enables businesses to manage their physical and digital assets, which represent one of their largest budgetary spins, ensuring those investments are deployed, tracked and recovered through automated software. The launch of asset management expands our capabilities into an entirely new multi-billion dollar TAM that fits perfectly within our software ecosystem. By combining asset management with the automated tools already in the Paycom system, we help our clients strengthen the security of their assets, bolster compliance, and reduce loss property. Not only can organizations track all of their assets across their locations, but they can also identify the exact resources a position requires, which ensures a consistent deployment and retrieval of all company assets.

Even though it was just released a few weeks ago, client feedback has been very strong and they're already adopting this new technology. Asset management marks the 45th product we have developed, hosted, distributed, and serviced over our nearly 28 years in business. We take great pride in our ability to consistently release industry leading technology that generates tremendous ROI for our clients. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Shane Hadlock. Prior to his role as our president, he served as our chief client officer, where he was instrumental in increasing retention, driving world-class service, building strong groups of leaders, and delivering tremendous automation across the organization.

With that, let me turn the call over to Shane.

06:12

Shane HadlockPresident and Chief Client Officer

Thanks, Chad. We are driving innovation across our industry and this quarter we released Project Arc. Project Arc was the largest system-wide release we have had in our company's history. This new release fundamentally changes the way clients and their employees experience pay come. Clients love the new scalability and customization. This new release gives each user a unique experience, helping them quickly find the information and action items most relevant to them. Our clients say that their managers are raving about how customizable the system is, making it easier for them to do their jobs. One of our clients with a few thousand employees said that they were impressed with the new Arc release because it provides great customization and performance for their employees, managers, and organization.

In addition to the new customizable features, Project Arc included significant updates to enhance the performance, scalability, and functionality of our software. These changes to system performance and scalability have produced an experience for our clients that is much more efficient. In fact, a client of ours with over 10,000 employees reported their system performance increased by 4X. Client feedback has been incredible and they are enjoying the benefits of this customization and improved scale, making the industry's most intelligent solution even more powerful. Our award-winning AI solution, I want, continues to accelerate speed to value for our clients by providing them with system intelligence that automates events and tasks within the system. For many new employees and new users of our software, utilizing I-1 is their first interaction of our software, making it easier than ever to use.

As we roll out more AI and automation across the platform, we are driving measurable value for our clients and their employees.

I want, has been a game changer for our clients and the industry. I am proud of our team and all the work we have accomplished over the course of the year to drive efficiency and client satisfaction. Across the board, we have great talent at Paycom, especially in the leadership team. We have a deep and experienced bench with institutional knowledge and a competitive mindset that sets us apart.

I would like to thank our employees for their contributions to an excellent first half of 2026 and the robust results year to day. We are building strong momentum on a variety of new products to further automate businesses. During the quarter, our product and culture received several accolades. Paycom earned the 2026 top rated award from TrustRadius, which reflects strong client satisfaction across multiple HR and payroll categories. I was also pleased to see Paycom was named to Newsweek's greatest workplaces in tech and our sales organization was included in selling powers, 60 best companies to sell for. These awards highlight our differentiated product set, client satisfaction and elite sales program. This is an exciting time to be part of Paycom.

With that, let me turn the call over to Bob.

10:10

Robert FosterChief Financial Officer

Thank you, Shane. Second quarter results were strong with total revenue of $531 million up 10% over the comparable prior year period and recurring in other revenue of $505 million up 11% year over year. Revenue strength in the quarter was broad based, reflecting consistent product demand conditions and increased client satisfaction. Our focus on process automation and leveraging our own technology is driving increased productivity across the organization that is fundamentally strengthening our business. Our efforts over the last several quarters are driving sustainable margin expansion and earnings growth.

Gap net income increased 20% in the second quarter to $107 million or $2.34 per deluded share based on an average of 46 million shares outstanding. Non-gapped net income for the second quarter was $128 million or $2.78 per deluded share. Adjusted EBITDA on the second quarter came in at $235 million representing a 320 basis point year over year margin expansion to 44.2%.

Based on the strength of our results in the first half, we are well positioned to deliver industry leading EBITDA margins, record free cash flow, and accelerated earnings per share growth in 2026. We continue to identify what we view as a valuation disconnect in the market during the second quarter. An opportunistically repurchased approximately 2.6 million shares of common stock or approximately 6% of our shares outstanding for a total of $346 million. Over the first six months of the year, we reduced shares outstanding by 20% by repurchasing nearly 11 million shares of common stock. We turned approximately $1.4 billion to stockholders. We ended the second quarter with approximately 44 million shares outstanding and $1.66 billion remaining on our buyback authorization.

We also paid approximately $18 million in cash dividends during the second quarter. On August 3rd, the board approved our next quarterly dividend of $0.37.5 per share payable in early September.

Turning to the balance sheet, we continue to enjoy a very strong liquidity position. We ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $198 million and have drawn down a total of $900 million on our $2.1 billion revolving credit facility to support a year to date stock repurchases. The average daily balance of funds held for clients was approximately $2.9 billion in the second quarter of 2026, up 9% over the prior year period.

Now, let me turn to guidance for 2026. Based on the strength of our first half results and more visibility heading into the second half, we can confidently increase our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges. We expect total revenues to be between $2.197 billion and $2.212 billion or between seven and eight percent year over year growth. We now expect full year recurring and other revenue to be up eight to nine percent year over year. Included in total revenue outlook is interest on funds held for clients of approximately $105 million, which assumes current rate hold for the remainder of the year.

Finally, as we continue to benefit from the impact of our automation initiatives, full year adjusted EBITDA is now expected to be between $1.007 billion and $1.022 billion, representing a record adjusted EBITDA margin of 46 percent at the midpoint of the range. Our strong first half results have bolstered our conviction in our 2026 plan and in our full solution automation strategy. We are executing well across the organization. Our clients are increasingly pleased with our platform and their ROI achievement and we continue to opportunistically return value to stockholders through our capital allocation strategy. We'd like to thank our employees for their commitment to our vision and their contribution to our strong first half result.

With that, let's open the line for questions. Operator.

15:31

At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, please press star and then the number one on your telephone keypad. In the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow up. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Raymo Lencho from Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Questions and answers

16:05

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Barclays

Perfect. Thank you. Congrats from me. It's a great quarter. If I look through my model chat, it's like the biggest beat you had for a while, revenue is celebrated very nicely. Was there anything special in this quarter like one of factors or something that drove there? Can you speak to that strength? I mean, you gave some of the pointers already that I have a lot of clients kind of wondering, wow, this is really, really good. So what happened here? And then I had one quick follow up above.

16:32

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Oh, no, it was broad-based. Nothing new all from the same buckets that we've always had in the past.

16:39

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Barclays

Okay, perfect. Anything on the new products contributing already? Or is this just, well, it seems to be almost here early for that?

16:53

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Yeah, I mean, obviously some of the products that we produced last year starting to contribute to that, we did release two significant products, I would say in the last three months. One of them in the last couple of weeks, I would say their contribution to this quarter wouldn't have been meaningful, but one of them would have contributed a little bit. But we do look for both of those to contribute more as we move into the future.

17:18

Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from the line of Samad Samana from Jeffries. Your line is now open.

17:24

Samad SamanaAnalyst, Jefferies

Good evening and thanks for taking my questions. Chad, you guys have always had a very strong sales distribution team. I'm curious, you know, you've talked a lot about AI and the impact of solutions you're creating for clients. I'm curious what you guys are doing from an internal AI-enabled perspective for your sales organization and how that's driving productivity and how you might think about that influencing sales, office expansion, or headcount growth. And then I have one follow up.

18:01

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Yes, you know, I don't know that I would say AI as much. Definitely, AI helps us in the prospecting and identifying certain prospects and maybe what trends they had before. You know, we are a high touch sales organization, and so we do that high touch sales model. I will say that, you know, over time, especially over the last couple of years, including into this year, you know, we have allowed our clients to buy in-app. And so it does somewhat circumvent the book sales process as they can buy directly from us. Career and succession planning is actually a product that allowed for that.

18:40

Samad SamanaAnalyst, Jefferies

I'm just interested in maybe just a follow up in terms of the capital allocation, especially given kind of the very aggressive buyback in the first half of the year. And I think that's paid off in spades. Should we think about capital allocation being a bit more balanced going forward? Should we think that the buyback remains the top priority? Just help us think about kind of building drive powder versus the level of buybacks we've seen in the first half of the year. Thank you again for taking my questions.

19:10

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

You bet. When you think of CapEx, first, I mean, I kind of want to frame it this way. You know, last year, we spent over $100 million to prepare data centers to host our own AI models. And this year alone, that spend will lead to about $100 million savings in R&D and another $30 million or more. And I want response fees that would have come from a third party. And, you know, as an added bonus, we use some of the excess capacity to improve the performance of our systems with greater processing power. So we do believe last year's investments will produce even greater value as we move into 2027.

19:46

Robert FosterChief Financial Officer

And then Bob, you want to comment on the CapEx? Yeah, I do. Let me comment them out too on the CapEx. It will be a little more normalized than in the past. But when we look at the results, especially as it flows down through EBITDAH, I want to go ahead. That flows all the way through to free cash flows. So I want to kind of make a one-time comment on free cash flow given how the market has consistently underestimated the strength of our business model over the last few quarters. But I would tell you that based on the strong first half results and what we have visibility into for the rest of 2026, we do expect free cash flow to exceed $650 million in 2026.

And then maybe the CapEx approximately 6%. And then I'll give you the tax numbers too for the models. Gap tax rates 29%. Non-gap tax rates 27. And stock based comp is 3% of revenues in 2026.

20:54

Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from the line of Steve Enders from Citibank. Your line is now open.

21:05

Steve EndersAnalyst, Citibank

Yeah, I guess I just want to follow up on the free cash flow commentary that you just gave. I guess one understand, I guess what are the lovers that are really, I guess, kind of supporting the improve free cash flow outlook for this year. And then, I guess, similarly, is there a framework to maybe think about even on it to free cash flow moving forward into future years?

21:35

Robert FosterChief Financial Officer

Yes, Steve. So last year, actually, it's your conference we talked about. We were conscious of the fact that even DAH margin and free cash flow margin had to begin to get closer and closer. So what was driving this year, and it is sustainable, was it was broad-based too. It was efficiencies in how we do our processes, and it was efficiencies in our labor workforce. And we'll continue to drive those efficiencies in the future.

22:13

Steve EndersAnalyst, Citibank

Okay, that's helpful. And then on just, I guess sales productivity rates, I know there was a big focus on tailing the last year or two to retrain the sales force. I guess where are we at in terms of sales productivity trends and the impact that we train is having. And would you say we're kind of back to typical levels at this point? Or just how are you thinking about the incremental improvement that can come up from the sales productivity?

22:43

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Sure, with an enhanced system, it did require somewhat of an enhanced sales process just to make sure that our clients are able to achieve the full ROI that's available to them. And we want to make sure we're presenting that to them on first call. And so we have, sales has been doing great as a reminder. We have many reps still going through training. And also, as a reminder, we expanded our teams of A to teams of 10. So you have 100 of our new sales reps. Over 100 of the new sales reps are also additional headcount for some.

23:26

Steve EndersAnalyst, Citibank

Thank you very much.

23:26

Thank you very much for your questions. Thank you very much for your questions. Your next question comes to the line of Ramau Lencho from Barclays. Please go ahead.

23:33

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Barclays

Hey, I think I asked my question already, but the follow-up questions I wanted to have for Bob was if you think about your rate assumptions for the year, like obviously there's a debate around what's going to happen to the rates. Like what's driving your thinking about a stable rate, like using the current rate for the year there. Thank you.

24:06

Robert FosterChief Financial Officer

Sure. And we, in our assumptions that there would not be any kind of rate increase or cut through the rest of the year, even if their world would have a minimal impact on this year.

24:21

Your next question comes from the line of Jason Salino from KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

24:27

Jason CelinoAnalyst, KeyBanc

Great. Thank you. Maybe just, you know, following up on Enders' last question around sales productivity with the acceleration that we're seeing and from, you know, the better training from last year in the expanded headcount.

You know, bookings came in as expected.

24:53

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

You know, we have two categories of book sales. You know, one is sales to new prospects. And we also have sales to current clients. As I kind of mentioned earlier at the beginning of the call, you know, over the last couple of years have implemented more in-app purchase capabilities. And that somewhat skips the book sales process. But, you know, bookings have come in as expected. And we would expect as we add more and more reps to the field. And as they grow those pipelines, we would expect that the additional rep headcount would be a creative to future book sales.

25:27

Jason CelinoAnalyst, KeyBanc

Great. And then maybe just a quick one for Bob. When we think about the second half, the recurring growth profile, anything we should think about in terms of seasonality with Q3 or Q4. Thank you.

25:40

Robert FosterChief Financial Officer

Now, there's, you know, this is my favorite question. Thanks, Jason. The count is, we, the seasonality have probably one more Wednesday, maybe in the third quarter. And then you have a little bit of tough comp in the fourth quarter. But as you know, we look at that and smooth that up over the two quarters. So we look at it six months.

26:02

Jason CelinoAnalyst, KeyBanc

So thanks. Thanks, I think Bob.

26:02

Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from the line of Mark Markin from Baird.

26:16

Mark MarconAnalyst, Baird

Hey, good afternoon and congratulations on the strong results. Had a couple of questions. One, Chad and Shane, I was just wondering, how would you describe the current pipeline? I went to Sherm. I've gone to a couple of other, you know, smaller conferences and where you appeared and your booth was this path. And it seems like, you know, there's a lot of interest in the automation story. And so I'm wondering, what's the shape of the pipeline now? You know, your, your revenue, you know, projections, you know, assume a little bit of diesel relative to the first half. And I know you're trying to be conservative. But it seems like you've got a lot of really good momentum right now.

So I was just wondering if you could talk about that and potentially also along those lines, you know, what you would expect from the new products in terms of what they can add. And then I've got to follow up on the financials.

27:10

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Sure. Pipelines remain very strong. You know, in the perfect world, your pipeline turns into backlog of clients ready to implement. And so, you know, that's what we look for. But pipelines remain strong and they'll continue to build as more and more reps, you know, enter their territory. As far as product contributions into the future, you know, we've got, we've done a lot of development in the last year. And we've got a lot more that will be coming out in the next year. The one thing that hosting our own models has done is really allowed us to move very quickly. And Deb, it's our, it's also saved us on token expense, which we do have token expense.

But we have a lot less of it now that we run our own models internally. And it's also allowed us to deploy, you know, our AI engine like I want, if you will. And I think someone would be hard pressed to find a client of ours that hasn't used I want. And so I think as you look into the future, we'll continue to be adding products that add value to the client. And then we've developed, released, hosted, distributed and serviced. And so we've gotten really good at that process. And I think that, you know, it's become a little bit easier to do some of those things. And so it's an opportunity for us to accelerate that as we look into the future.

28:46

Mark MarconAnalyst, Baird

That's great. And then just a follow up. Can you talk a little bit about like the R&D expense? You know, it went down fairly significantly here in Q2 at the same time that the G&A actually went up a little bit. And I was just wondering, is that just a change in the allocation? Or are you getting more efficiencies? Obviously the whole total, you know, you're seeing great improvement in terms of the margins, which is which is terrific. But just wondering about the pieces moving around.

29:20

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

You're from an R&D perspective, I can take that more take the G&A. I mean, we are developing differently than what we ever have in the past. I mean, we're organized differently. Our structure is different. The process that product goes through is different, that a product would go through to get all the way through to release is different. And so, you know, I would say that's quite a bit to do all of this and increase productivity and client satisfaction with the product. And so, you know, from an R&D perspective, I would say that we've become much more effective.

And that has also led to great efficiencies on that line.

30:01

Robert FosterChief Financial Officer

And then Bob, if you want to. Yeah, on the G&A, you can go up a little bit. Biggest category is probably around professional services. And some of that was related to, you know, a one-time expense. We expanded our and renewed our line of credit. It was a great interest in that. We were proud that, you know, people believe in a robust business model. And that's what led to some of that in the G&A.

30:26

Thank you for your questions. Your next question comes from the line of Jared Levine from TD Cohen. Your line is now open.

30:40

Jared LevineAnalyst, TD Cowen

Thank you. It was good to hear that bookings came in line with your expectations in tooth. I guess, have you seen that inflection that you were hoping for in terms of when you went into this year? Just directionally, any kind of color in terms of kind of the momentum here would be helpful on the bookings front and how you're kind of seeing things progressing to 3Q so far?

31:01

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Yeah, I mean, I would say that my expectations are always higher than, you know, what could maybe even reasonably be achieved. But what I will say this is yes, bookings came in as expected, and also just a stat to share is that our new reps coming out of training are getting up to productivity much faster than they ever have in the past, and we're having great success with that. And so, you know, all this builds well as we look into the future.

31:31

Jared LevineAnalyst, TD Cowen

God, and then in terms of we've seen multiple of your competitors pushing more into managed services, I guess how are you thinking about this opportunity if at all?

31:41

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

You know, I think we look at everything that has a positive impact on a client and can produce a strong ROI for them. And we also try to automate everything that we can, you know, and we think that's very important, asking the questions why and what are you going to do with that so that we can go ahead and complete it for them. So we're going to continue to focus on that. You know, we do have pre-employment services. I think we're probably one of the largest pre-employment service companies in the U. S. I think at one time we were about, you know, fourth. That side of our service business continues to be very strong, and it's up a measurable amount for this year.

32:29

Your next question comes from the line of Daniel Jester from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

32:35

Daniel JesterAnalyst, BMO Capital Markets

Great. Well, thank you for taking my question. Maybe first on I1. Is there anything you can share about sort of how that ramped from a usage perspective in the quarter? And as you go back to customers that have been with you for a long time, have you seen any change in their willingness to adopt I1 and all of the functionality it provides?

33:07

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Yeah, not really any change. I would say the more you work with a consistent model that delivers accurate responses, the better you get at knowing how to ask it a question. And, you know, the better you get at asking questions, the less time it takes for you to get that response. And in our environment, you know, your consecutive responses per second, you know, that helps that become more efficient as well. So, but yes, we continue to see great uptake. Nobody goes backwards in technology once you're used to using something. You know, once you're there, nobody steps away and goes backwards from that. We've said in the past that I want is the predominant way that employees, new employees experience our system.

As we completed Project ARK, you know, it put that even more in the spotlight. I want, we'll continue to grow in capability, but it's very also important that we be accurate. You know, we come up with AI functionality all the time and agents all the time. And I always have the same question for the people that created. I'm like, well, is it cool or is it accurate? You know, and if I don't get an accurate response, I mean, you know, we continue to work until we can't produce that. And so we've been focused on that. And I want does deliver a very reliable, efficient way for someone to achieve all the value that's available to them in the PECOM system.

34:39

Your next question comes from the line of Jacob Smith from Guggenheim. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

34:46

Jacob SmithAnalyst, Guggenheim

Hey, thanks for taking my question. Revenue from customers above a thousand employees was grown faster than total and past quarters. So I was wondering if you could provide an update in what you're seeing there. And as the sales org goes to market with full solution automation pitch, are you seeing average deal size or module count at initial and trend higher this quarter, particularly upmarket?

35:07

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

I wouldn't say that the profile of size of clients changed in the second quarter here. I think we continue to produce value across the board, regardless of the client size, industry, or location.

35:23

Jacob SmithAnalyst, Guggenheim

Okay. And just as a quick follow up, Chad, you talked about the beginning of the year's gold expanding sales capacity across offices. And on the last call, you mentioned new reps were coming through training and ramping faster than pretty much any class in a number of years. It can give us an update on where you stand on that capacity expansion. Are you at the pace of hiring you'd like to be? And is this year more about driving productivity higher with existing reps or ramping the reps?

35:53

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Both. I would say it's both. Definitely productivity with existing reps continues to increase. You know, with new reps at Texas second. I mean, your initial productivity gains you're going to get are always going to be with your current reps. New reps that takes a second, you know, they can get the value proposition. They understand the pitch, but you know, then you go out there and you run into some, you know, situations that you have to get through. And it takes sometimes a new rep a little bit longer to get that. So they stay in the game and then they start having success. And then that confidence starts to build. And then they start selling more and more and more.

And so, you know, our existing reps are going to obviously outsell a lot more than our new reps. But we do have so many new reps that we put in the field that we're very excited about, you know, what that's going to mean for us as we head both throughout this year, and then as well as we go into next year.

37:00

Your next question comes from the line of Kevin McVee from UBS. Your line is now open.

37:08

Kevin McVeighAnalyst, UBS

Great. Thanks. And congratulations on the results. I mean, it feels like the business is structurally different, right? I mean, the pacing of the margin, the revenue you're delivering.

Is that, you know, primarily the standup of the data centers last year? Are you in the early phases of AI across the expense structure with more to come? And, you know, from a revenue perspective, going forward, is it going to shift from more of a fix to with a variable component, as opposed to PEPM? Any way to think about how the business model will be impacted clearly, you're in a good position and able to leverage it. But just anything that we can help, because the results have been and continue to be exceptional.

37:54

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Yeah, I mean, I would say that the whole world is probably still a little bit in the early stages of AI. I would say we jumped in head first with everything we had last year, not just in product, but in infrastructure and everything else. And then, you know, then we started using it to develop and become a lot stronger at that. And we started using it in areas of our service to identify things. And so, you know, we're becoming better and better at it. I wouldn't say we use AI for AI's sake. I mean, automation matters. And, you know, there's a great amount of accuracy you get with automation. And in our industry, you know, you only get points for being accurate.

And so, that's always been a focus of ours. You know, so we see that to continue the other question from a fixed variable. I'm not 100% sure on your revenue question, except to say, you know, our pricing model does follow somewhat industry norm. It is proprietary to us, but does follow industry norms. And we do look to deliver to our live for that spend with us.

39:16

Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from the line of Bavin Shaw from Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

39:24

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the strong quarter. It's nice to see all the new product releases. As you move into other agencies, such as asset management, how do you have to think about adjusting maybe the go-to-market motion to account for the different potential end buyers that you might be dealing with outside of just the HR department.

39:47

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Yeah, I mean, you know, we've had spend management for a while. We have other areas that impact, you know, to find the accounting department or the office of the CFO, you will. I mean, there's never been a deal that we've ever done where we weren't integrating with a general ledger system and what have you. Also, I mean, CFOs care about labor and what HCM system is deployed because for most, for a lot of companies anyway, labor is one of their largest expenses. And so asset management does blow naturally into what we already do. Our same sales organization that we have now are well equipped to go sell our asset management as it both has an impact in provisioning for employees.

And then it also has a total asset tracking system as well. And so we feel like that folds in nicely with what we're selling anyway.

40:52

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Got it. And maybe just a quick follow-up for Bob, just in terms of the strength you saw in the first half of the year, especially on the growth side, why not invest more into the business, just given what you're seeing happening versus kind of slow to the bottom line, and that's strong even though that we saw you guys do.

41:08

Robert FosterChief Financial Officer

Well, we are continuing to invest in the business in different ways. And you'll see that. And that's why we believe it's we're just smart about how we do it, and it's sustainable. So again, we are worried about the growth side and the efficiency side.

41:32

Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from the line of Patrick O'Neill from Wolf Research. Your line is now open.

41:38

Patrick O'NeillAnalyst, Wolfe Research

Hey guys, thanks for taking my question. Just a quick one for me. How would you characterize the current employment growth in the first half of the year? And then maybe if the growth was positive, what was the benefit in the first half? And what's implied in the guidance from here following the impressive rates of the full year outlook?

42:04

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

I mean, climate growth would have just been stable, same consistent with as it's been every year in the past with the exception of the, you know, when it went down about 14% during COVID, and then it came right back not long after that. It may have been a little more than 14% that went down. But really, since that time, we've had stability and we would expect that, and all of our guidance going forward would expect stability in that.

42:28

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Alan Verkofsky from US Bancorp. We are just opening your line. Your line is now open.

42:46

Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Hey guys, given the sequential decline in OpX, how are you thinking about paycon's head count growth through year end? You mentioned earlier, you're seeing labor efficiencies. So more color there would be helpful.

42:58

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Sure. So, you know, our focus is product automation, and you know, that drives cost efficiencies in many areas, you know, including labor. You know, we update our employment numbers annually, and we had 5, or 5,770 employees as of our last update that we gave on the February earnings call. You know, we're focused on client ROI achievement, not necessarily our cost. You know, the ROI achievement is higher with automation. And you know, while there's no limit to what can be automated, you know, there is a limit on labor efficiency as we do believe there's a strong human aspect to developing, selling, converting, and servicing business.

43:52

Thank you for your questions. Your this concludes the question and answer portion of today's call. I will now turn the call back to Mr. Chad Richardson for closing remarks.

44:00

Chad RichisonChief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Thank you. Thanks everyone for joining the call today. We look forward to speaking with many of you at the Deutsche Bank Conference on August 26th in Dana Point in the City Conference in New York City on September 8th. I want to thank our employees for their contributions over the first half of the year.

With that operator, you may end the call.

44:22

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